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    It’s almost as if words mean things and have specific definitions, especially legal ones. Feel free to criticize such behaviors with different accurate words for things you don’t like.

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          On the other hand, genocide was committed in October, when Hamas brutally attacked the Jewish state, murdering an estimated 1,200 people, Schiff said.

          …and the article lost credibility. If what Israel is doing isn’t genocide, then what Hamas did can’t be genocide.

          Looked up the people quoted in the article. Rabbi Danny Schiff is an ethics lawyer from Pittsburgh, not a genocide scholar. Avi Ben-Hur, who is more qualified to speak on this said:

          “We have a monster on our doorstep,” he said. “We were caught asleep. We had horrible things done to us. It’s not a question of payback. We have to retrieve our safety and security so people can go back to their homes and live their lives like normal people. We have to degrade the monster’s offensive capabilities so this can’t happen again.” source.

          Calling them “monsters,” and dehumanizing people, doesn’t gain my trust.

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            Oct 7 literally is an act of genocide, see my post above. You’re saying they don’t have credibility because you don’t understand what genocide is. This designation has nothing to do with body count.

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              Even if the definition of “genocide” is ceded. The crimes against humanity outlined in the ICJ against Israel and the ongoing humanitarian crisis created by the ongoing conflict is damning.

              If we wait to call it a “genocide” after it’s already been committed, then the world will have failed Palestine.

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      If someone punches you to death, declaring they weren’t trying to kill you doesn’t make them any less guilty of murder.

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        If someone punches you to death, declaring they weren’t trying to kill you doesn’t make them any less guilty of murder.

        Actually, in the US it could. Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

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          Curious how you moved the goal posts from “not openly stating one’s intent” which was used as justification to claim what Israel is doing is not a Genocide to “not having intent” which is what defines the difference between murder and manslaught.

          People are convicted of murder all the time when they didn’t openly said their intention was murder if it can be shown beyond reasonable doubt that it was their intention.

          So the previous poster’s point holds very well and you just further dug the grave on yours.