The 27-year-old man who police say shot and killed a California business owner over a Pride flag draped in her store appears to have had a yearslong history of posting disturbing — and often violent — anti-LGBTQ messages on social media.

The suspect, Travis Ikeguchi, gunned down Laura Ann Carleton, 66, on Friday, after confronting her and “yelling many homophobic slurs” over her clothing store’s Pride flag, San Bernardino County Sheriff Shannon Dicus said at a news conference Monday. Shortly after fleeing the store, Mag.Pi, Ikeguchi was killed in a shootout with law enforcement.

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    I get what you’re trying to say: “It’s not fear, it’s hate” but we call that hate homophobia and everyone agrees on the meaning.

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      Exactly. And since we already have words for that, I don’t understand why people have to make up new terminology. If the article called him a bigot, I would still know what the shooting was about.

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        “Homophobia” has been the accepted and predominant term for anti-gay bigotry for as long as I can remember; no one’s making up new terminology here.

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                Most don’t these days, they just make up their own meanings. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                  Yet you still don’t realize how badly you are failing to communicate in your comments. Which is the whole point of words right?

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                  You are the only one doing that though. All you comments are basically projection (you can look up the definition of that term).

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          As I said in another comment, Native American has been the terminology for quite some time as well, regardless of the fact that it’s wrong.

          My point, so you don’t think I’m trying a straw man argument, just because something is used for a long time, by the majority of people, doesn’t make it inherently correct.

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            I don’t understand why people have to make up new terminology

            I used google trends to show you they’re not; the term has been in common use for literally decades.

            Further, you’ve been stating repeatedly in this thread that “homophobia” is incorrect semantically because it’s not a literal fear of gay people. But the literal dictionary definition of “phobia” proves you wrong on this.

            Repeating the same alternative facts over and over in this thread doesn’t make them true.

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          So has the term “Native American “, and that’s no more correct than the word “homophobia “. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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            Except “phobia” doesn’t solely mean “irrational fear”. As @pizza-bagel@kbin.social pointed out, “hydrophilia” and “hydrophobia” do not refer to chemicals that are literally in love with or afraid of water.

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        What us the definition of “hydrophobia” as it relates to chemistry?

        I’ll wait for you to explain how some molecules are leterally afraid of water.

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          What does that have to do with homophobia?

          The same point comes across if you call them a bigot instead of attaching new definitions to a word so that it fits the description of someone who is prejudiced.

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        Bigotry is the overall term, homophobia is a subset of bigotry. You are the one attempting to redefine language in ways noone but yourself agrees with.