Honestly, MLs tend to do this with a lot of convos, I feel.

  • LearysFlyingSaucer@lemmy.ml
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    I’ve mostly stopped caring since its clear nothing is going to change for the better unless something catastrophic happens first. Like for instance famines and other climate change induced supply chain failures forcing people to fight a government that has nothing left to offer them except violence. I’ll still be fighting with CPUSA until I die though.

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      Collapse has to hit for the west to start considering anything new; and when they do, they’ll probably consider fascism first to the exclusion of all else, so you’re not wrong. I’ve hit the doomer streak, and don’t really see a way to unflip that switch now that the feedback loops have started. Cosigning ComradeSalad, tho; please pick a better org. I don’t trust or expect anything out of CPUSA but tailism to reformists.

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          Did anticolonialism and Black self-determination ever make it back into the party platform post-Civil Rights Movement? Did they ever apologize for purges of revolutionary Black nationalists in the wake of white Amerika’s uproar over the (in tragic hindsight) false Emmett Till allegations? Did they ever decouple from assimilationism and settler-leftism? Historically, CPUSA has been a capitulatory organization. I do not expect anything better of them in the modern day. This is a ‘show and prove’ moment.

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            Actually, we never gave up on anti-colonialism and Black self-determination.

            Also, we never purged Black nationalists; many remained with the party.

            We are not assimilationist or anything like that.

            You’re kinda just repeating fed talking points, no offense. 😜

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              …Cool; this conversation is over with 'cause after that? I’m patently incapable of handling you civilly; and this is not your first time showing your ass.

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                If you’re going to “vague-post” you shouldn’t bother posting.

                I believe it is you who has “showed your ass” lmao 😅

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          The CPUSA leadership are corrupt, backwards, and completely out of touch with their reality as an organization and material reality in the United States.

          The only main pushes seem to be for empty electoralism for Democrat politics and never any other substantial effort. The leadership are completely unable to let go of the fact that it’s not the 1960’s-80’s anymore. They are also Pro-Khrushchev and believe in market economics.

          The party line is that they are literally opposed to a revolution. They are a liberal shill party that’s an empty shell of its former self, and the positions are extremely idealist and removed from material reality.

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      Yeah, I’ve stopped being angry.

      I’m morally opposed to capitalism. That’s enough for me. It needs to die, logically. I’m not emotional about it all. I’m methodical.

      Oh yeah, and fancy seeing a CPUSA member here. This place is very anti-CPUSA so I generally stick out like a sore thumb.

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        To anyone saying we’re an echo-chamber, I’d point them to you as a great example that we do keep around those we disagree with. Wishing you a pleasant day, American!

        Edit: I just had to open my mouth, didn’t I?