• BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Why can’t religious people just grow up instead of throwing violent tantrums over everything they don’t like?

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        I partly agree but this is about personal responsibility. If someone is trying to provoke you, your reaction is entirely your decision. Someone burning your holy book didn’t “make” you retaliate. You made this decision yourself and should own the consequences.

        It reminds me of the rationale for requiring women in some countries to cover their faces, lest the sight of an uncovered female face “makes” the men rape the woman.

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      1 year ago

      Why can’t free speech absolutists just grow up instead of throwing irate tamper tantrums on forums over being asked to show a modicum of respect to other people?

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        I’m by no means a free speech absolutist, but I have to side with them on this one.

        I will show a modicum of respect the day they show they’re taking ANY measure to actually try and stop violence, and stop sending and carrying out threats. And I believe it’s of utmost importance that we don’t change our laws BECAUSE of those THREATS.

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          they

          Who? Be precise, please. The kind of Muslims who react to the burnings by announcing that they’re going to gift free Qurans? Those kinds of muslims?

          And I believe it’s of utmost importance that we don’t change our laws BECAUSE of those THREATS.

          Over here we do have laws against revilement of religion – not blasphemy, not disagreeing, but revilement. They were introduced after the 30 year war to make sure both Catholics and Lutherans would cool it down.

          You don’t make people less irate by stoking the flames. Stop believing in such nonsense. What you have to do is take away the fuel.

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          1 year ago

          “modicum of respect” such as not spitting someone in the face. As such actually more in the sense of “don’t egregiously insult”.

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      Why can’t trans people just grow up instead of throwing violent tantrums?

      Why can’t women just grow up instead of throwing violent tantrums?

      Why can’t jews/muslims/insert group of your choice grow up instead of throwing violent tantrums?

      See how fucking stupid you sound?

      Equality means equality and we shouldn’t be selective about enforcing it. If a group of people are offended by something, grow the fuck up and stop doing it. Period.

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        What are you on about? Religion is a mental illness forced on children through abuse. No one is born with it. It’s not a choice. Why should these violent maniacs dictate policy for normal people?

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        Please name some instances when a trans person or woman has thrown a violent tantrum and ended up killing more than ten people. These issues are far from being equal or even comparable.

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          Not mentioning something that was done in a certain school by a trans person because they didn’t like what they said about them

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            1 year ago

            If you feel your comment did not adequately convey your intentions, you can always clarify the intended meaning.

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              It did and it was the last few lines of my comment.

              “Equality means equality and we shouldn’t be selective about enforcing it. If a group of people are offended by something, grow the fuck up and stop doing it.”

              The rest of the responses to my comment have been a combination of bad faith arguments and deflections, which is why it’s not worth responding especially when people have their minds made up.

              If a group of people aren’t going to stop harassing another set of people just because they belong to a certain religion, it’s incumbent on a government to step in and pass legislation that prevents/discourages it. I’m not sure why this is confusing to literally any sane minded individual.