I think you would agree there are epistemic norms like 'if we dont have enough evidence for something, we shouldnt believe it" or “if a view has contradictions, we should reject it”. These are rules that tell us how we should reason, and they are objective facts we didnt create. Moral facts are just like these but tell us how we should act. An argument to to you is (“companions in guilt” arguments): I think its likely you accept those like the former are objective and not made by us, so you should accept the latter can be so too.
Morals imo aren’t created by humans. Some are, but real moral facts like ‘the holocaust was wrong’ or ‘torturing babies for fun is wrong’ do exist. They are things to be discovered (not as easily as the obvious ones I listed), not created, just like epistemic norms are.
Morals are human constructs. Human constructs are not objective facts.
I think you would agree there are epistemic norms like 'if we dont have enough evidence for something, we shouldnt believe it" or “if a view has contradictions, we should reject it”. These are rules that tell us how we should reason, and they are objective facts we didnt create. Moral facts are just like these but tell us how we should act. An argument to to you is (“companions in guilt” arguments): I think its likely you accept those like the former are objective and not made by us, so you should accept the latter can be so too.
Morals imo aren’t created by humans. Some are, but real moral facts like ‘the holocaust was wrong’ or ‘torturing babies for fun is wrong’ do exist. They are things to be discovered (not as easily as the obvious ones I listed), not created, just like epistemic norms are.
What is a moral fact? State one please. I would like to hear about this universal moral. Does it apply to the Aztecs or were they universally immoral?