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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15032962
Alt text: a screenshot of a microblog post with the text “you walking down an alleyway with a gram of weed in your pocket, who would you rather catch you?” Below are two pictures side by side. One of Kamala Harris and the other of Batman.
Said this to the other poster of this shit before getting banned. Who in Russia sent you this? Just wondering where the propaganda farms are there
This is an anarchist community. Anarchism has a long history of advocating for abstentionism, so I don’t see why it should be shocking to see it here.
The Case Against Voting - Colin Ward
Death to the Russian government lol. But seriously, assuming that everyone who doesn’t know down to your politicians is a Russian agent is needlessly conspiratorial.
Fair, but this feels like it’s really grasping for anything to try and paint Kamala in a bad light and that screams bot farm.
Absolutely not! It’s like the lowest hanging fruit of a bountiful tree of evil she’s a part of. Anarchists also have a long history of advocacy for the abolition of police, so again this kind of rhetoric coming from actual humans should not come as a surprise.
In most communities, I’d agree. But in an anarchist community, especially this C/, the only thing I’d be surprised at is that the meme is stale. This place is usually pretty fresh on the meme train.
Tbh, most of the blahaj political C/s, you can essentially not worry much about farming. There’s really not going to be any posts of the usual propaganda subjects that would be out of the norm for the various communities. I’m mostly a lurker on blahaj, but it’s pretty damn lefty friendly overall.
No bullshit, just lurk for a while and it’ll be easy enough to see.
Yup. And a long history of being ineffectual in making changes on a societal level because of it. Statistically, it’s equivalent to supporting the worst outcomes and building roadblocks to achieving the sustainable systems necessary to support humanity while dismantling unjust hierarchies. Anti-electoralism is so fallacious with the data for context that it nearly seems like a right-wing ploy to suppress leftist voices.
In fact, this meme is really on-point for this perennial problem and regular Denying the Correlative (“vote third party”). The realistic version would be “which person would you rather meet in an alley when you have drugs on you: a former prosecutor, a nazi, or an imaginary character bourgeois character with Superman Syndrome that isn’t a real choice but counts in favor of the Nazi.”
Too many fellow anarchists are happy in their ivory towers, pretending that inaction isn’t a choice, and choosing ideological purity over using every tool in the box to keep the patient from dying while treating the sickness. There’s more than enough of us to overwhelm the Right.
I don’t tell people to vote or not, people can make that decision themselves, I’m not their master(I keep that in the bedroom). I was a politico/activist, I did a hell of a lot more then vote every couple of years. I became an anarchist because of all of the subtile out in the open corruption that I saw. If voting could produce substantial reform it would have been made illegal. There is never an appropriate time for holding anyone accountable, during the primaries everyone says we can’t support a reform candidate because they’ll loss in the general, we have to support the nominee because other side bad, & we can’t have change next election because other side bad. If you never hold anyone accountable for their actions why would they ever change? I’m not saying tactical voting is useless but blind support for a political establishment is dangerous. People are so afraid of other side that they bend over backwards to not view their politicians critically & the two parties in general are a lot closer on policy then people like to think. The fact I get so much angry push back for even minor critisism is evidence that people have let themselves be cooped. The more corrupt & brutal police departments are in Democratic strongholds. We just had the largest most sustained anti police protest in history & all of the reforms have been largely cooped or underminded & rolled back & now we have a former prosecutor who defended corrupt police & other corrupt prosecutors who has been ordained the new candidate with no real candidate electoral process. An across the board Democratic landslide would have it’s own pitfalls. The Democrats efforts on gun control will disproportionately effect marginalized people because gun control always has. The Stop & Frisck program is a good example of the harm gun control policies have. Only two percent of the stops found guns, POC & trans women where grossly over represented & NY cops were allowed to arrest women in possession of condoms for prostetution. Harris as a prosecutor prosecuted non violent gun possession cases harshly, a subset of those cases would have been marginalized people who had a gun only for self defense. I honesty think mutual aid activism is far more productive then spending time trying to get people to vote.
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You have some really valid points and things that I would like to address but need to try to focus my ADHD brain elsewhere at this moment. I will try to reply to you this evening.
Understandable.
Sorry for taking a while - family that we’ve not seen in a while.
As much fun as it is to go that route, most farms today are run out of China and India. I mean there are still putinbots but not nearly in the numbers there was in 2016.
They’re all pushing similar frameworks so it doesn’t matter as much where they originate from, they are all using the same playbook.
Oh that’s interesting. I suppose the war is draining too much of Russian resources?
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Bro I’ve literally donated my own money to people killing Russian invaders. But yes everyone who criticizes your favorite politician is a Russian bot & using that card to try to shutdown even the smallest critisism of those in power doesn’t have a corrosive affect on political discourse in the west thereby serving Putin’s aims.