Some Apple users say its parental controls aren’t working properly. A CEO who has 4 kids called it ‘frustrating.’::Parents told The Wall Street Journal they have to continuously check their Screen Time settings to ensure their children’s usage is limited.

  • FoxBJK@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    Don’t rely on Silicon Valley to babysit your child. All software has flaws, and a kid who wants to watch more YouTube videos will figure out a way because there’s probably a dozen videos out there detailing each bug.

    V-Chips didn’t do shit in my era, and we found ways around Bess, so none of this surprises me.

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      1 year ago

      Do you have kids? I can tell you as a parent that parental controls are godsend.

      If I were to try to do the same myself, it would be 10-15 arguments a day. When the software does it, there is no argument or very little. Sometimes they ask for more, and I can evaluate their case. Much better than chasing them around trying to tear the iPad out of their hands.

      All that being said, I’ve had to use other 3rd party software because Apple’s parental controls are buggy and unreliable.

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        1 year ago

        My 5 year old is already sneaky enough that when I put him on starfall he will wait for me to get distracted and chnage tabs and type gibberish into search, or click the YouTube icon in chrome and do the same (which is more dangerous, YouTube has some really weird shit if you search special characters).

        I alsready have dns controls on network etc and generally manage access by physically retaining control of a device. M

        But as they get older adding some level of content filter that’s https aware may be needed.

        Though as an IT admin I’ll try and rely on trust and communication over technology solutions. But still. Like borderline planning to dump them on their own vlan, with a Pi-hole and some extra filters, that also goes to Cisco umbrella and some sort of squid guard/sensei setup on my opnsense router or even websense or palo alto filter.

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          1 year ago

          Keep trying, you will figure it out. Obviously you need to physically monitor as well as use tools. But my teenager finally gave up trying after I thwarted numerous attempts at circumventing the limit.

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            1 year ago

            I mean. I’m a admin by trade. Ran systems for a bank that had multiple cascading products.

            It’s more philosophical choice. I can easily setup blockades they would be hard pressed to thwart even as a teen.

            Part of me wants to challenge them like I was to bypass them. Part of me wants to teach them to be responsible and practice good secuirty on the net

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              1 year ago

              Part of me wants to challenge them like I was to bypass them. Part of me wants to teach them to be responsible and practice good secuirty on the net

              I feel exactly the same.

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      1 year ago

      The alternative solution is to not give your kid a phone at all. Having been down the cat and mouse games with blocking, I can tell you that’s the only thing that works. The problem is that most schools require technology use, paper maps and public phones are non-existent, social pressure, etc. Pinwheel is the most nerfed smartphone for parents who want to limit their kids phone use but it’s a weird subset of Android, doesn’t nicely fit into Apple ecosystems, but effective if you need that.

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      1 year ago

      How can the kid watch videos on how to watch more videos when they are blocked from watching videos?

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        1 year ago

        “Hmm… I wonder if Mom’s password to unlock the iPad is the same as her pin code for… holy shit is she really this stupid!?”

        Or if that’s not enough, here’s my lazy attempt to see what the options are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZaMNsGSvRE

        Imagine if I put more than 10 seconds of thought into this.

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          1 year ago

          You probably don’t have kids so you don’t understand how valuable parental controls are. /s

          There are a few parents in this thread showing their ignorance.