• thebrownhaze@lemmy.world
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    If you recall, we were talking about warnings from history. These children were not being fed, their bourgeois parents were being evicted sent to gulags and exterminated for owning a typewriter or a horse or something.

    You said children were not bourgeois this is a lesson about the children of the “bourgeois”

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      That doesn’t make the children themselves bourgeois. They have no control over the money or the circumstances under which they were born.

      And, again, let’s see your historical argument for not feeding children.

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        They don’t have one, they’re just a shitty little troll. They say the government shouldn’t be feeding people, then say they aren’t against free school lunches, because their only goal is to piss people off

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        I bet as they were being placed in to orphanages or starving with their mums they were thinking well this is very unfair we’re not the “bourgeoisie”

        Has it happens neither with their debt but the state of the USSR didn’t seem to mind.

        I can give you the example of present day where I live all children where I live get free school meals up to age 6. I don’t need them I can afford to buy my own kids meals as can all the other parents at my school more or less, but we have no choice. Does that sound sensible to you?

        For the record I am in favor of feeding needy children as I have said before but perhaps not to you

        (I’m using voice to text it’s a bit spotty)

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          I bet as they were being placed in to orphanages or starving with their mums they were thinking well this is very unfair we’re not the “bourgeoisie”

          No, they didn’t know what ‘bourgeoisie’ meant because, and I can’t stress this enough, THEY WERE CHILDREN. They didn’t do anything to deserve that.

          Jesus, why are you tarring children with the “crimes” of their parents?

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              What are you even talking about? I’m not a tankie and you’re the one using the actions of the USSR to say that children are bourgeois and don’t deserve to be fed, which, I don’t know, sounds kind of like something a tankie would say.

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                  Yet again- Children are not bourgeois. And I put the word crimes in quotation marks. Do you really not know what it means when people do that? Do I really have to clarify that to you? Are you that illiterate?

                  And yes, we are having a discussion about the past. A discussion you implied would justify not feeding children. You have yet to do that.

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                    I know. Neither were their parents. The people in charge thought they were, which I think was my point.

                    My lesson form history is what happens when you start labelling people in to groups and then treating them very badly based on group identity.

                    I started taking about this because you said children can’t be bourgeois, which I agree with, but that didn’t ultimately matter . Which is my “lesson from history”.

                    We are taking about this because you wanted an example of what happened to bourgeois children who at least the children of the bourgeoisie, which is a lesson from history.

                    Hearing we have a caution retail about treating people badly based on group identity. Do you agree that is a useful lesson from history?