Or all hunted meat. Or all free range meat. Or whatever fumes they’re huffing.
They definitely stop for food when traveling and eat normally murdered meat. They definitely go to restaurants with friends and eat industrially slaughtered meat with friends. They’ll certainly pick up a thousand typically meat items in their grocery cart, like pork rinds, hotdogs, dog food, or whatever.
Maybe they splurge once a week for Trader Joe’s level shit. If they’re rich, they’ll fill their fridge with that shit and do it more often. They’ll post that shit on Instagram like it’s normal.
It’s not fucking their normal, it’s their aspiration. They all eat industrially murdered animals. Fucking all of them, no exceptions. There’s no humane meat.
*If any carnists go “well what about X dude that lives in Y country far the fuck from me” well fuck you that isn’t you, you live in Ohio and drive a Mitsubishi.
I mean even “ethical” is like what the fuck are we talking about. Sure there would be less aggregate suffering if we all only ate hunted meat, compared to industrial farming (as well as much less meat and death just by necessity). But do we need to eat it? For those of us living in advanced capitalist civilization (i.e. in rich countries, exchanging money for goods and services), we’re either dirt poor and eating only whatever we can get our hands on (in which case we’re not dealing with ethical decisions, it’s just about survival), or we’re choosing to eat meat rather than plants. Making a conscious choice to take a sentient life because it gives us pleasure or convenience is unjustifiable regardless of how we might try to mystify that relationship.
Yeah and the argument makes no sense, because if everyone ate meat from “small ethical farms” then those would just be forced to turn into industrial slaughterhouses due to demand.
They ignore the fuck load more land we’d need to support that too.
I think context is very important when talking about our personal choices for being vegan/vegetarian/whateverflavorofnonmeateater. Personally I like to say that the reason I continue to make the choice is because I am fortunate enough to live in a country and have enough resources to be able to not consume animal flesh or byproducts, but I recognize that that may not be a reality for everyone in the world, or even everyone in my country. So to your point, I have sympathy and can excise that one X dude if his survival/life requires it, but zero sympathy for those who choose to consume animals or byproducts simply because it’s more convenient or “it tastes good.”
100% of the people I interact with online pretend to because they think it’s a valid rebuttal.
NO ONE I know IRL actually gets their meat from those mythical “small, family-owned, ethical farms”.
I live in bycicle distance from two farms like that and a small hunting hut where they sell boar meat. And yet, i still don’t know anyone who only eats from those, because it’s maily super expensive. One of the farmers basically told me that he’s selling expensive meat to buy cheap meat from poland or somewhere. It’s bizarre.
