• SirSoy@lemmy.world
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    Sadly no. The reality is both sides are demonizing each other to the point where both feel comfortable portraying the other as the enemy. It’s terrifying if you have even a modicum of common sense. Just cause someone likes a different politician doesn’t make them a Nazi, a communist, or any of the words the left and right are throwing around. It’s not normal. And pretending it is is just weird.

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      You’ve introduced a lot of noise around the simple fact that only one candidate is unwilling to accept the results of the election. It’s scary that you can convince yourself otherwise with enough distraction.

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      Don’t try to normalize fascism, pissant. No one here believes you “have a modicum of common sense”, so just give it a fuckin’ rest. Your opinion is shite and you should feel like shite for voicing it. Hush now.

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        The fact that you have no idea what my political leanings are or who I’m supporting, nor would you ask and you feel ok calling another person a fascist simply for pointing out the behavior on both sides says more about you than it does me.

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          It’s pretty clear you’re okay with propping up actual fascism. That alone makes the rest of your arguments fall flat.

          No one with any actual principles is going to listen to the side screaming for the annialation of trans people. (One of many reasons to reject far right ideologies entirely.) How is that so hard to understand for you?

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            Honestly I try to be centrist but I lean a little left. I think socialized healthcare is good thing, but I think it should be run at the state level cause each state will have different needs. I think bodily autonomy should be a right for everyone. I think that there should be a limit on millionaires. Hell I think they should put a limit on CEOs too like you can only earn x times the lowest paid employee. I think gun crime is an issue but I think focusing on the tool used instead of the socioeconomic, mental, and societal factors is a mistake. I want us to do something about or deficit but both parties seem intent to just spend spend spend these days. And I definitely don’t think attacking others over their beliefs or sexual orientation, is OK. If I had to choose a party I’d say I lean more towards the Democrats

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              I try to be centrist

              There’s your problem right there: if you try to mold your principles to fit a false narrative of “the middle point is always rational”, you’re going to risk developing some highly irrational ideas, such as thinking that fascism is normal conservatism and it’s calling it out that’s abnormal.

              think socialized healthcare is good thing, but I think it should be run at the state level cause each state will have different needs

              Or such as thinking that the politicians in charge of states like Mississippi, Texas or Delaware** are honest and always put the needs of the majority of the people over the wants of rich donors.

              I think gun crime is an issue but I think focusing on the tool used instead of the socioeconomic, mental, and societal factors is a mistake

              Or such as thinking that the many other causes of violent crime (all of which need to be addressed, of course) aren’t greatly exacerbated by guns being easier to access than health care, voting, or library books that acknowledge the existence and value of minority groups.

              I want us to do something about or deficit but both parties seem intent to just spend spend spend these days

              Or thinking that the deficit and how much political funding happens matters anywhere near as much as WHAT’S being funded

              ** Delaware is the most corporation-friendly of all the states. That’s why almost all of them are registered there regardless of where they’re actually based.

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      Nazis only support one side. That one side didn’t say they were against Nazis.

      That is weird. It’s not normal.

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      That’s bullshit. Democrats all over the place are saying this is likely to be a close election and people really need to get out and vote to beat Trump.

      The only sense it’s true that Democrats are taking about it being rigged are that actual, known attempts to rig it, like the fake electors scheme and the storming of the capital, along with the grotesque gerrymandering, all of which is verifiable.

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        The big one you missed are efforts to purge voter rolls and require all kinds of ID to be allowed to vote. Birth certificate to register is ridiculous.

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      I do not agree with your assessment of “reality.” Only one side is actively against bodily autonomy (especially for women) and wants to look at kids genitals and police which toilet a human shits in. Only one side courts the religious ethnostate fascist where their whole stance is in-group vs. out-group (aka, demonization). Pointing these out isn’t demonization, these are facts. If someone likes politicians from that side, the odds are good it does indeed make them suitable for the various negative labels they don’t like. The late Dr. Bob Altemeyer studied right wing authoritarianism (both the leaders and followers) and even developed a rubric that would predict right wing authoritarian followers. They are dangerous because they eschew reason for vibes and are extremely susceptible to demagogues.

      Give this a read and see if it changes your opinion on “both sides”

      https://theauthoritarians.org/