You do know that liberals are not leftists, right? And that no serious leftist thinks the US is democratic? I’d call myself left and I abhor the US

Fuck that kumbayah shit

Yet you still felt like you needed to defend the US? Why?

Yeah, 100% agree. The wealthy also manipulate rubes into thinking that there is no viable alternative, that other countries (mainly China) are so bad and oppressive that the tubes believe they’d rather keep getting fucked than to follow in the footsteps of the Chinese. It’s so prevalent on this website and on Reddit that you’d see Americans claim they’re more free, and this comment was meant for them.

Because I used a figure of speech? If you were to say “oh my god” then does that make you a religious fanatic too?

You’re as deluded as one, at least. Westerners’ hubris will be their downfall. Just watch

Oh that does look like freedom alright. Freedom from the burden of a good life

Yeah because western imperialism ruins everything.

You’re not even worthy of it. Go let trump destroy your country while crying about how enough ppl didn’t vote or whatever. Doomed to serfdom and deluded by your own hubris. Burn in hell.

What the absolute fuck are you talking about you idiot

You are unfortunately the country that has led the rest of the world down this evil path. You deserve to be especially shamed for it. Stop being such a bitch and own up to it.

Snapchat had the ability to summon American law enforcement within a short timespan. Or is the law enforcement in question private?

Also, who was front and center at Trump’s inauguration, if not corporations?

In other words, stfu yank

I write a whole comment for you to just take a snippet of, reply with snark and then send a link that ranks the US democracy index at 81/100.

I very much doubt the intelligence of these people if they call the US a “flawed democracy”. It’s an oligarchy that knows enough buzzwords to sound correct.

But sure. While China develops their economy, ensure their citizens are well and educated, and act as the only big power actually doing something about climate change, keep deluding yourself that the US is somehow better.

Stupid fucking American.

Shout-out to all the Americans still claiming that they are more democratic than whatever other country. I take great pleasure in seeing the shit hole your country is and is still becoming. ❤️

Let me guess: you’re American?

So if the west indeed is more free, why are people getting arrested, beaten, scolded and losing jobs for supporting Palestinians? Why are neo-Nazi parties rising, why is it ok to run politics solely based on hate for immigrants in every supposedly free society? I guess you’re white and don’t know what’s it like to witness entire political movements dedicated to othering you.

Trump is the president of the US, farage and his like have millions demonstrating against Muslims in the UK, Sweden has Nazis on course to becoming the most popular party. Everyday I am bombarded with messaging reminding me that I’m vermin. Do you mean that a free society is consistent with fascists in every position of power?

And again, all the while this is happening, politics happen in ways that are not popular. Increased living costs, housing basically impossible to acquire, billionaires eating away at the working classes’ right. The only solution these so called free societies offer is to blame minorities.

But I guess all of that is ok because you can write LGBTQ? Even tho the trend here is clearly taking us to a point in which the little rights gays have will be put into question?

As an aside: Chinese gay people exist and it is fully legal to be gay in China. So what is even your point?

Yes, also true that the CPC is more effective in their decision-making. However, I’d like to claim that a free democracy never existed in the west – at least not in a way that deserves to be described as such. This varies from country to country, but to put it in general terms, there is democracy in the west insofar that the populace doesn’t stray too far away from capitalist doctrine.

The past two-three decades have shown that. No single people would like the housing prices to be as high as they are, or to live in societies where essential services are slowly picked apart by capital. When we vote, we can get the change we want as long as it’s acceptable within the bounds of what the country’s oligarchy want. And we are steadily under the assault of desinformation campaigns that demonise anything thats left of center – something you can see in effect with every piece of propaganda hurled at China.

Every single mainstream party within every single western country has turned rightward, and you’d be hard-pressed to find a politician that runs on – or delivers – on leftist principles. That is the effect of capital in action. Capitalism cannot exist within democracy – it will devour the will of people, soon or late.

And this is not to mention the extent to which supposedly free countries have oppressed their peoples for speaking up for the plight of the Palestinians.

What you see in the US is the inevitable result of letting capital exist within democracy.

So no – “free democracies” don’t exist in the west. The CPC, for all its faults, seems to do good by its people. They have high approval within the Chinese populace. And as long as it’s American/Western actors accusing the CPC of whichever offense that they themselves were guilty of, and for fear of the emerging superpower that disproves their profit-driven economic models, then I won’t believe it. And neither should you.

You and so many are so deluded by propaganda about China. I used to believe it until I saw how these same sources lied so they effortlessly about Gaza and Palestine. Then I went to China to see it for myself – and it rocks. Housing is cheap, jobs are good and it’s hard to believe this was sold to me as a dystopian dictatorship.

HAHAHAHAHAH

Edit: am in China rn, it’s even better than the TikTok propaganda. Would live here in a heartbeat instead of the racist and islamophobic West that bombed my country and called me a Muslim scum when I fled to their so called humanitarian safe havens.

The Dems who helped bomb my country of origin as every bit as fascist as the Republicans. Please stop deluding yourself

You’re not wrong but you’ll notice that all the countries that have made the strongest criticisms toward Israel are present in that list, like Spain and Ireland. Trade and geopolitics aren’t always compatible.