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A post on Ask Lemmygrad by user Cyber Ghost titled “What are the reasons why Russia attacked Ukraine?”
Below is the comment by user @cfgaussian reading: “The Nazi Kiev regime attacked the ethnically Russian Donbass for eight years intending to commit genocide in their quest for an ethnically pure Ukraine and Russia finally came to their aid after it became clear that the Minsk agreements were never going to be honored. Also, NATO was turning Ukraine into a hyper militarized threat to the integrity and security of Russia itself. Refusal of the US and Europe to negotiate on a new inclusive security framework, refusal to stop NATO expansion eastward, and the relentless and violent anti-Russian psychosis that has gripped Ukraine since the Maiden coup that triggered a civil war in a country in which half or more of the population are essentially Russian became intolerable.”
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Sounds like the China fans with Taiwan. ‘They actually want to be part of the PRC they just dont know it yet’
‘Those ukrainians are basically already Russian so its fine’
This is a screenshot from lemmygrad. Those people are the China fans you’re referring to, it’s all the same group of people.
Had a, uh, discussion with lemmygrad where apparently wanting high speed rail without secret police and genocide is a controversial take. It was a post kind of half celebrating the atrocities of communist regimes. Only for lemmygrad users to turn around and tell me that those things never happened, but they were totally justified and ought to happen again, but communists don’t do that kind of thing and it’s all made up propaganda, unless you’re a capitalist or a liberal or [someone else who deserves it]. There were a few interesting and intelligent lines of thought in that whipping circle I found myself a part of, and I was glad for those, but generally the ideological spin was going so fast, you just about had to slap a tail rotor on it.
State socialists have some reasonable explanations for the authoritarian aspects of the USSR and sometimes China but they’re so easily provoked (online) it’s hard to find them in the flood of reactionary dumbassery going on around it. Don’t take this as a defense of state socialism. It’s not. But their logic has some merit if you believe a state is a necessary institution in a socialist/communist society
It’s because a lot of them seem to want secret police first and high speed rail second.
You’d think it would give a person pause when in the course of defending their political beliefs, they manage to post a single comment that contains four or five lines, almost verbatim, from the Narcissist’s Prayer.
But it never seems to.
I know amount of explaining that NATO is a defence alliance seems to to work.
NATO exists because of Russian aggression. If they stopped trying to attack every country touching there borders it would be fine and NATO wouldn’t need to exist.
I mean there’s a case to be made that NATO expansionism is bad and does have a destabilizing effect and that trying to isolate the region for what may be mostly historical reasons isn’t really helping in the grand scheme of things.
Then Russia goes and threatens to invade Finland or something and it’s like “oh yeah, that’s why”.
I just loved all the people who were going “Russia respects borders and doesn’t invade other countries” when they had tried literally the exact same thunder run strategy with Georgia not that long before Ukraine.
Russian propaganda literally says that “Russia has no borders”
Yeah, raping and killing your own people is totally fine! …Ohwait, no, it isn’t.
Do they realise they use the same exact excuse Hitler used to occupy czechoslovakia?
No of course not because not a single one of them has a clue what they’re talking about, and has never studied history or politics.
To them everything is black and white. You are either an insane tanky or you’re an evil Nazi, and there’s no other option. There’s definitely no normal people, since they see themselves as the normal people.
I think most of it is chronically online 17 year olds that have had their brains so borked by the american two party system and political climate being so volitile. They’ve grown up in a world where its us vs them, im always right you’re always wrong, I can do no wrong and you can do no good, etc. So when they learn that the USA kinda (really) sucks, it fucks with their head and they start thinking “the other side” is right.
Yes, the USA government is grossly corrupt by corporate money and the media is compliant, has taken part in imperialist conquest, and has lied about its own history. But that does not make Russia/China ANY BETTER.
I would rather live in the USA than Russia/China in a heartbeat, even with USA’s problems (there are a lot) because at least I can say “Fuck the usa, death to America” without being erased from the timeline by secret police.
“They had to invade! Ukraine forced them to!”
Great argument.
Isn’t this the literal reason the Nazis, as in, the actual Nazis, gave to justify their invasion of Alsace and Lorainne? That their friendly ethnicities were being discriminated there, and that they had to invade to save them?
Do not compare any glorious people’s republic to Nazi Germany otherwise you get called a Holocaust denier.
One of the Hexbears spazzed out at me when I said the NKVD, like the Gestapo, did horrific things. I was genuinely confused…
Yeah noticed that one of the spazzers who has too much time on their hands has been running around throwing a link about Holocaust denial around like they found us breaking a class rule and are going to tell a teacher.
They really just want an authority in control to tell them what to do and will side with the bullies since they think that will make the pain stop. Cowards. I get it but they are cowards.
Oh God you said it. If the name that shall not be named is repeated twice more, thou shalt summon thy horde!
Eh they’ll get banned fast
Same with the Sudentland in Czechoslovakia.
And same with Poland. The nazis dressed up some convicts in German border guard uniforms, then killed them, took photographs of their corpses and used as one of their excuses to attack (they also blamed Poland for murdering German ethnicities in Poland of course).
That’s a lot of Copium.
Funny considering that our former Wagner chef himself said that the whole 2014 pretext was bullshit. Also funny because one of the groups that Russia used since 2014 in that region is Rusich, a very obvious neonazi group. So Ukraine was fighting Nazis all along.
“violent anti-Russian psychosis”? Psychosis? Really?
The majority of the time, I try to understand the perspective of my opponents. Unfortunately, there are times (like now) that I’m afraid attempting to understand will only expose me to hatred, ignorance, and false information. For example, I have no idea what the “Maidan coup” allegedly was, and I refuse to look it up. It might even be a real historical event documented by reputable sources, but I’m not wasting my time finding out. (That isn’t a dare. I don’t want anyone reading this to search it, either.)
Lol, I just blocked that instance. No way I’m looking at commie word puke.🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
Blah blah blah…What being an agent for the Russian state on social media does to your brain.
ftfy
