He was quoted out of context. He wants to separately eliminate daylight, savings, and time.
Works on contingency? No, money down!
To avoid confusion, all of the US will be on DTT (Donald Trump Time), which will vary based on where he currently is.
Do not give him ideas, please.
If I remember correctly, the issue last time is that they wanted us on permanent Daylight Savings Time, instead of Standard Time. So I expect Trump to force the U.S. onto permanent DST, just because all science says it would be worse for us than going to Standard.
I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I want permanent DST. I want it to be light when I get home so I can spend some time outside without a flashlight. I don’t care if it’s dark in the morning, I’m working. Don’t tell me to just work different hours, I already work 6am-3pm, which is the earliest I’m allowed at my current job, and a lot earlier than allowed by many jobs. I still only get about an hour before dark where I live.
Sunrise here 10:20 and sunset 12:30. Darkness is our fren
Darkness is our fren
Have they come to talk with you again?
Yes, because a vision softly creeping left its seeds while I was sleeping.
How is it worse? I want permanent DST so bad
Standard time is better for health, someone made a better argument for it in some other thread
Ah an argument, well I guess it’s settled then and it won’t ever be worse than the other way around
Right, you’re free to look it up further but it messes with the internal clock or something. For my latitude, DST sucks
Fuck that. Clock noon and solar noon need to diverge less, not more.
Science says it’s better to have day light in the morning and dark at night
But people aren’t waking up at 5am and going to bed at 5pm so it really doesn’t enforce standard time
Every time this topic comes up I wonder how many computer systems this will break. Maybe we find out soon if this is really realized.
It wont be too bad. If you mean computers used commercially, Unix keeps a running total of seconds since the epoch and DST only affects whats displayed as time. Nothing will fundamentally change for these systems. In windows server products it wont be a problem, and some windows clients use an automatic patch process. Air gapped computers may have some hacky process around DST, but its a pretty solved problem.
I’d bet it actually simplifies as least as many things as it breaks. Basically all computers already keep track of time as a count of seconds since a UTC epoch anyway, and then do timezone conversions on top of that.
Well, in essence yes. But I have seen enough mishandling and homegrown stuff of custom date-time calculations that this could get interesting. I suspect that there are a lot of systems where the TZ database is never updated which at least will result in shifted displayed local time.
Also, it is fun to get data from old programs and also from userinput where the actual offset has to be guessed from the timezone. And if that conversion data is old, fun is had. It does not matter how time is represented internally in this case.
There are probably hundreds of thousands of devices out there that are smart enough to know about time zones but old enough that there no chance of a software update, for example APC UPSs and power strips used in data centres world wide and years beyond end of support.
As long as they can get tzdata / Olsen db updates before the first change, there’s usually no problem. But, I’m sure there are still devices out there using the OLD US switchover dates from the Bush era, because they have a different, possibly “hard-coded” rule set.
Can we get rid of timezones and switch to UTC please
I don’t want it to ever be -03:00. That shit is confusing as hell.
Lol I think it would just be 3 am or 9pm depending on which way you are talking
God I hope he doesn’t ruin this long overdue improvement.
I mean, I have no great love for DST, but I have no faith that they can do anything but completely fuck it up somehow. Whatever results will be at best, no measurable improvement, but at least a monumental pain in the ass for those who have to do the work to keep shit on schedule during the morass.
They’re going to move it 30 mins to meet in the middle…
I mean it seems to work for India, Nepal, etc.
If they’re using the 2022 bill they’re already fucking it up. Kids are going to be walking to school in the dark in winter and get hit by cars because they want to pretend that we’re a few thousand miles east of where we actually are.
So maybe we could do the other thing that scientists have been saying, and make school start later. Obviously just one of the things that would need to be fixed, because school is currently a glorified daycare (because both parents are working, yay) and changing the times would fuck up parents’ lives.
Sure, but we should do that independent of this. Schools need to start at least an hour later on standard time. On DST they need to start two hours later at least.
Aotus says a lot of things including how he would like to bang his daughter.
They say even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time.
It’s weird how I watched VEEP last year and here it is coming true.
A bill has been floating in the house and senate for a few years. Trump could have got it done back in 2019. So why is this the only thing he can pass?
The far-right former brasilien president did the same
Great policy. Misogynistic, racists, liar will say anything for attention, tho.
Based
Gonna piss off the farmers, until they get their subsidiary check for growing corn (for high fructose corn syrup) instead of feeding the population.
Everything will piss off the farmers.
Removing daylight saving is actually something they want, because it fucks with their routine, but sure, they’ll be pissed off about removing it too.
Aye, there is a large coalition of farmers that typically remind people their day doesn’t typically revolve around the time we arbitrarily set, but the sun’s presence or not. They can plan for the store to be open whenever, but working when you can see (and/or it’s not too cold/hot) is immutable.
