• protovack@lemmy.world
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    so weird. iā€™m a conservative christian. i grow a lot of my own food. chocolate milk in schools is absolutely insane and needs to be gone. the republicans stopped being my party a long time ago.

    i had to write a letter to my kidā€™s principle to stop them from giving my kid shitty candy all the time at school. wtf is up with people these days? how did people come to conflate ā€œindependenceā€ and ā€œfreedomā€ with junk? kids should be getting water at school. how is this a controversial opinion?

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      1 year ago

      Have we really gotten to a point where chocolate milk in schools can be called ā€œabsolutely insaneā€? Chocolate milk strikes a pretty good balance between tasting good and providing nutrition, probably more than most fruit juices

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        Why must it be one or the other? They should both be gone. There is no ā€œbalance.ā€ Chocolate milk and fruit juice are not healthy options, especially for children. Full stop. If it must be milk, plain 2% milk is sufficient to get the nutritional benefits.

        And we havenā€™t even considered if the milk in question has been sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup.

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          not healthy options, especially for children. Full stop

          I think youā€™re making this far more black and white than it needs to be. Fruit juice and sweetened milk can easily be part of a very healthy diet. Unless youā€™re a professional athlete, no one is watching their diet close enough for 8-12oz of juice to be an issue.

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            Weā€™re not talking about adults, though, athletic or otherwise. Weā€™re talking about children, and having a healthier diet in childhood gives better health outcomes as adults (e.g. forming good eating habits).

            Having juice or sweetened milk on a regular basis trains your body to crave it and affects your gut health negatively. Additionally, and this is anecdotal, I canā€™t imagine itā€™s helping anyoneā€™s behavior in school.

            And as far as ā€œdiet watchingā€ goes, take a look at European school lunches; generally far healthier and more well-rounded than what we find in the US, all because they give a fuck what their kids eat. Plus, I can assure you many parents are watching their kidsā€™ diets as much as they can.

            Schools shouldnā€™t be confounding the health efforts of parents. This is just shilling for the dairy industry disguised as lawmaking, plain and simple.

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              Seems like to make any kind of sense weā€™d have to accurately define ā€œhealthyā€. Foods are healthy or unhealthy in context for the most part.

              Is chocolate milk ā€œunhealthyā€ compared to water? Depends what youā€™re looking for, it has added sugar but also provides solid macros and decent amounts of vitamins.

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                Sure, and I agree with your premise, but at that point, why not just drink plain milk? The added sugar is superfluous on top of the lactose (plus, we havenā€™t even covered the extra processing of the chocolate or artificial flavors that are all too common in American prepackaged foods).

                But whatever the case, the politician making this ā€œstandā€ isnā€™t doing it because he wants to ensure kids get the macros they need; heā€™s in the pocket of dairy lobbyists.

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        If they really want to do it right theyā€™d get rid of dairy as much as possible. Dairy is not all that great for anyone.