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- world@quokk.au
- worldnews@sh.itjust.works
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had trapped the remaining Ukrainian soldiers in its western Kursk region, where they have held on for more than seven months in one of the most important battles of the war.
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After reading this article, I have to say that the headline/image are pretty misleading. He was talking about Kursk, the region of Russia that Ukraine invaded: he said it’s back under Russian control and the Ukraine forces there are surrounded. Then he said they have two options: surrender or die.
I’m not defending Putin here. Just that he’s evil enough without actually taking things out of context to twist what actually happened into some clickbait headline.
With what, the second strongest army in Russia?
Ah yes, the peace talks…
Piss negotiations.
Putin really meant, “Surrender AND die”.
Funny how Putin offers “mercy” while bombing hospitals. His dictionary must define peace as “total submission.”
🐱🐱
Its wild to think that when this started I was not married and my now wife then girlfriend was still in college. Time flies. Aside from that, what the fuck putin?
Probably important to note that in American English, college refers to tertiary education (‘university’ elsewhere)
How far does college go? PhD?
For most, “College” is the first 4 or so years getting a bachelor’s degree. Beyond that is “Grad school” where you get Graduate degrees like PhDs, Masters degrees, and whatnot.
I only did undergrad and the degree was in acting so take what I say with a grain of salt as I am an authority on practically nothing.
Thank you
I’m amazed he’s offering “Surrender or die”, I figured he’d pull an Israel and go “Surrender AND die”
That is definitely what will happen if they surrender though.
They say ‘or’, then they act out ‘and’.
Putin must surrender or die
I’d love to fly that drone that does the job
😁
Can’t happen soon enough man. I wake up every morning and go to Google news front page hoping to see it. I hate that my mind is being spent on having to hate this ugly, evil person.
Can someone please take Putin out on a balcony
Some some glowing tea?
or a window in top floor of a skyscraper. Dude needs some fresh air.
He should fall for so long that he has time to regret his life choices. They should need to to a dna test to confirm it was him with from the shit stain in the crater.
For anyone not reading the article he is specifically talking about any troops Ukraine has left in the Kursk region as there has been a general pullback into Ukraine from Kursk in the last few days. This is not about the wider peace negotiations.
I feel like fast doesn’t change anything. “Surrender or die” is not very “peac-y” whether you’re in Kursk or somewhere else.
That is how war generally works. Until a peace is negotiated you would like the other side to surrender or die. Yeah Putin started it, but that doesn’t change the nature of war.
Strange because the actual title of the article mentions that fact. it appears the link seeks to make it as clickbaity as possible.
Yeah. I didn’t like that. I don’t like Putin but misinfo isn’t going to help.
“but misinfo isn’t going to help”
tell that to literally all of politics
Surprises me even more because it is VOA.
For anyone not reading the article
ie. everybody in the thread
Hey Putin, wanna hear a funny story?
Trump was supposed to end this war in a day. Has it been a day yet?
Congress passed a resolution that literally says days no longer pass.
https://reason.com/2025/03/12/congress-just-made-it-harder-for-congress-to-block-trumps-tariffs/
Whoa
Yes a very weird one… Albeit a long one.
TBF he never specified which day.
One of his goons said he WILL end it in a day. How far away that day is… who knows.
Check again tomorrow
Europe, I hope y’all are doing the whole “speak quietly and carry a big stick.”
Because if Putin steam rolls Ukraine, he’s not stopping there, and now he has the US government under his control too.
Bet.
We ready bruv
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Russia had experience in trying to invade Finland. Hasn’t gone well for them since… well, since the idea of nations to begin with.
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Finland isn’t what I’m quite so worried about yet.
Its more Estonia. And Latvia. And Moldova, Romania, Poland, Chezchia, Slovakia, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc.
Hungary and Belarus I think we can say are pretty much already Russia.
Also I didn’t know about the Kaliningrad Oblast, anyone know what the fuck happened there?
Kaliningrad was German before (Königsberg) but was annexed by the Soviets after WW2 and Russified. At the time there was a land border through the Baltics. When these former Soviet states broke free, Kaliningrad remained Russian.
That raises a lot more questions
Like
Why? Lol
There are two "why"s: Why Kaliningrad became.part of Soviet Union and why it ended up as part of the Russia in 1991. Here the answers to both:
After WWII, Germany had to give USSR a lot of land as a form of reparations. Mostly this was done by handing parts of Germany in the east to Poland, expanding Poland to the west AND them handing the same amount of territory from Poland to USSR, essentially forcibly moving Poland westwards. This was quite an a-hole thing to do to Poland. Also, it had the weird effect that the culture and dialects of easternmost Poland suddenly moved to westernmost parts of Poland. There is a weird dialect border where if you go west past the old German border, suddenly you have eastern dialects. But, the Königsberg area had been an integral part of Germany for a long time before WWII began, so it was possible to simply annex it to USSR and that’s it. Germans were expelled from it, and the area was largely empty. Soviet Union decided to make it part of the state called RSFSR, not a new state, even though the annexed parts of easternmost Germany were not connected to the rest of RSFSR.
When parts of Poland were annexed to USSR in the process of moving Poland westwards, those parts were made part of the “Ukrainian Socialist Soviet Republic” (which was called “USSR” within Soviet bureaucracy, heh!)
Why the Kaliningrad area wasn’t made a part of the neighbouring “Lithuanian Socialist Soviet Republic”, is an interesting question! Probably because in Ukraine the Russification was already quite far, in Lithuania absolutely not.
In any case, in 1991 the Soviet Union fell. Each state became an independent country. Kaliningrad was a part of RSFSR, and that became the Russian Federation, so Kaliningrad ended up as a part of the Russia.
Yeah kaliningrad oblast came like as a surprise to me as well some years back. Like what the fuck is a piece of Russia doing there?!
Estonia is a EU and NATO country. It’s not part of NORDEFCO but we still have exercised with them extensively I believe especially after joining NATO.
Finland is the backbone of the Nordic defense.
And that’s my favourite role. In the army we won the rope-pulling contest with me as anchor. The other teams wore fucking boots while we had sneakers on (because dress code says no boots with exercise gear) so they broke military dress code and accused us of cheating.
I know I wasn’t the strongest member of our group (we had one EU judo champion who could toss a 10-20kg exercise ball to the ceiling of a sports hall like 10m high), but I was the most unyielding one with the most spirit and anger and that’s infectious.
I like to think I channeled the spirit of Óðinn:
As mentioned above, Odin’s name can be translated as “Master of Ecstasy.” His Old Norse name, Óðinn, is formed from two parts: first, the noun óðr, “ecstasy, fury, inspiration,” and the suffix -inn, the masculine definite article, which, when added to the end of another word like this, means something like “the master of” or “a perfect example of.” The eleventh-century historian Adam of Bremen confirms this when he translates “Odin” as “The Furious.”[1] Óðr can take countless different forms. As one saga describes Odin, “when he sat with his friends, he gladdened the spirits of all of them, but when he was at war, his demeanor was terrifyingly grim.”
https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/the-aesir-gods-and-goddesses/odin/
(as a side note odin was way gayer than ppl think and slightly genderfluid and I respect all lgtb and im not a racist, it’s just something you have to mention when talking about norse myths)
And thats wholly tangential but it’s what I bring to the table… Let Vanja fucking try opening up another front.
Ok so I learned a lot there
But I like your spirit. Makes me glad y’all are there and not the US
Fascinating! Thanks for this mythology lesson. I once read that although referring to the same god, “Wodan” is Odin on a grumpy day. Would you agree (I believe it was a modern Norwegian practitioner saying this, it was a long time ago, though).
Wodan, Wotan, Woden, Uuoden or Wuotan are just the continental germanic spellings of the name, while Odin is nordic. They all go back to proto-germanic Wōðanaz.
The Old English Wōden of course going back to the Anglo and Saxon invasion of England.
I’m not an expert. It’s think the name might just be derivative, but obviously with the time it takes for a name to change, their aspects might change as well.
It is a fascinating site.
I think a lot is personal perspective too. Anyway, Odin has a special place in my heart. A lot of deities from around the world do. The archetypes are us, after all.
Thanks for your reply.
They have scheduled a committee meeting to decide where to plant the tree from which they might someday get big sticks.
If Europe really wanted to stop Russia, they would’ve sent armies into Ukraine.
“We don’t want to escalate because it might start WW3!”
But Putin is going to attack you guys anyways when he’s done with Ukraine.
“Yes, but this is the rhetoric dumbasses have been told to peddle so that’s what we’re doing!”
I still remember when people said Ukraine shouldn’t mine its border because it would be seen as “escalation.” Funny how the wrong-crowd always scatters like roaches after the damage is done.
Europe is doing the opposite of “speak quietly and carry a big stick”
We’re doing that. Well, without the stick.
Man, what a peace-loving guy! Damn Ukraine for not stopping the war! >:/
Ukraine shouldn’t have started it by wanting to be independent of Russia.
Edit: do I really need to add /s?
Ukraine asked for it. By the way she dressed. If Ukraine didn’t want to be invaded, she should have just kept an aspirin between her knees
Accept that there are those lurking here whos only purpose is to downvote good and accurate content. So for the real lemmy users, no you don’t have to add it. For the ones who are only here to stir up trouble. Why bother.
He actually said, " Ukrainians must surrender or I die" but the media being what they are…
