• Suite404@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        Are you really asking this?

        Christians are okay with this because Isreal is the “promised land” and “gods chosen people.” They will remain on the side of Isreal because they see Isreals actions to be almost the same as their gods.

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          Israelis are Atheists. Zionism is an Atheist movement.

          The fathe of Zionism Theodor Herzl was an Atheist.

          Israel’s first PM Ben Gurion was a hardcore atheist.

          Israel is a consequence of Liberalism. It is pure Western colonialism nothing more.

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            Zionism is an ostensibly secular movement. Secularity is not atheism. Pretext is not motivation.

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          16 hours ago

          That would be a weird kind of Christians, the classical kind would want “promised land” to be Christian and consider “God’s chosen people” to have been extended to them all.

          And there are still Arab Christians, Orthodox and Maronite, mostly on the other side.

          So nah, that’s not it. Just racism maybe, but that’s not religion.

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            15 hours ago

            Weird kind of Christian in your book or not, it’s true. Christians, especially the evangelical type which have a lot of power in the US support Isreal blindly.

            My parents, for example, would be horrified by what isreal is doing, but because it’s isreal, they happily eat up any propaganda that makes them out to be the victims.

            Citizens dying? Shouldn’t have been in the area!

            My view of my parents has radically changed in just a matter of months.

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              Weird kind of Christian in your book or not, it’s true.

              It’s not my book, but Christians are supposed to have read that book and know what the Christian faith is.

              Otherwise they are a fan group.

              BTW, what do your parents think of cremation, are they aware that in Christian faith that makes one’s resurrection in the Apocalypse impossible?

              OK, I guess it’s not very useful, I think if I walk to a church and ask people passing through the entrance what their symbol of faith is, I won’t get many good answers. If I provide them with a few real variants, they’ll likely choose those of other Christian confessions. And if I ask those same people on schisms and heresies, they’ll be very intolerant of heretics.

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                If you think American Evangelicals can read their own holy book and that not reading or comprehending it has stopped them you’re either not from here or living under heavy drugs.

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                7 hours ago

                Again, it doesn’t matter what you think, it matters what they think. People can read the same thing and come to very different conclusions. Christians shouldn’t be supporting a person like Trump if they follow the new testament, but here we are. You’re demanding logic where there is little to none.

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                  OK, I agree with that.

                  It’s just funny that their understanding of Christianity is much more diverse (and removed from what’s supposed to be true in their own churches) than it would be possibly allowable in times when religion was actually important in European societies.

                  I mean, if you were a dirty peasant goat farmer covered in rags, nobody would care even if you praised Odin.

                  But if you were a free man able to read, even more a learned man (irrelevant though), and were heard saying the smallest thing of what these people casually say, that meant problems. Not even with law.