Some they do, but actually most they don’t.
The casualty rate is about 40 000 per month, meaning that there are about 25 000 cripples per month. The Russian recruitment capacity is about 25 000 to 35 000 per month depending on the source, so there should be about one cripple for one four-limbed soldier if all of the cripples were sent to the front. In reality, their number is a tiny fraction of that, as we can see in the videos.
Russians don’t really defect. They are told that Ukrainians will torture them for fun if they are caught alive and then kill each one, so it looks for them as if a 99% chance of dying on the field is still better chance than 100% chance of torture and then death anyway.
And because the Russian soldiers honestly believe this is how Ukrainians behave, they do that very thing to Ukrainians “in revenge”.
If they defect to the rear, they are shot by kadyrovite sheep enthusiasts.
So, whether the number includes defects is largely irrelevant. Maybe they do, maybe they don’t, but that won’t affect the numbers even by a tenth of a percent.
It’s not mere personal gain with Putin. The man has a vision of returning Russia to glorious Soviet Union. Probably felt kicked in the balls when it all fell apart. Remember, he was the head of the KGB, an extraordinarily powerful man. Maybe even more powerful than the Premier? Dunno.
He likely felt he would quickly crush Ukraine, make them an example, and then move on to other lost, and weaker, countries.
He was never the head of KGB. He was planted as the prime minister by KGB precisely because the big guys at KGB believed they could control him when the prime minister becomes a president by the president resigning.
The other important people in KGB would never have allowed for the head of the KGB to become the president if the Russia, because they were his competitors.
Yeah, but let’s keep hating every russian, because they ‘freely choose to enlist’ and invade other countries. They love being shelled by Nato artillery 🥰
They didn’t freely choose to enlist but if you put a gun in my hand and tell me kill that innocent person I will rather shoot the person giving me the order
Easier to say than to do. But for the ‘innocent victim’ case you should look instead at Israel. That’s where the innocents are killed by en mass by direct order.
Choice and freedom take on an entirely different meaning when you have a state media bombarding you with anti-Ukraine propaganda 24/7. It’s easy for us to say from the sidelines that we’d never get swept up in a war against innocents, but probably a lot of the soldiers have been fully indoctrinated with the idea that Ukraine are a threat to their families. Not to mention they probably now have friends and family who have been killed or wounded in this war.
Putin is the real villain here. He not only started the war, he’s the one who has kept it going by his refusal to withdraw troops, silenced political opposition, lied to his population, influenced global politics in his favour by buying elections, and used his subjects as fodder in this pointless war.
It’s fucking twisted the amount of suffering one thoroughly evil man can cause.
Well, now you are oversimplifying world politics to one man’s deeds. As if Nato expansionism did not play any role in the creation of this conflict. Read a little history before 2023 and you’ll see acquiring Ukraine is been a race between Nato and Russia since at least 2014.
Russia had already invaded in 2014, and successfully got a puppet as president in 2010.
NATO doesn’t expand by conquest, countries choose freely to join and other countries (especially hostile ones) don’t get to dictate the alliances of their neighbours.
What if I told you they’re not an innocent person, they’re a Nazi?
And if you refuse to fight Nazis, maybe it’s because you’re a Nazi yourself, hmm? Maybe we’ll investigate you for that, and keep you in prison while we do. And of course we’ll be investigating your friends and family to see if there are any Nazis there too.
That’s the condensed version, but you get the picture. There’s a lot more going on than just “here’s a gun, kill them”.
They were probably told Ukrain had Weapons of Mass Destruction, and so it’s their DUTY as defenders of freedom to invade and stop these terrorists! … oh, wait
Russian soldiers are mostly not conscripted, but enlist because the salary of a factory worker in a rural town is around 70 € per month, whereas the salary of a soldier is about 2000 € per day, which means a monthly salary each day, including weekends.
They go killing because they are okay to kill others in order to get a richer life for their family. And that’s not an okay reason. They have chosen their fate and deserve death.
And they all died because one psychopathic old fart simply just wanted to take over majority of or the entire country of another for personal gain.
Hey, that’s not fair! Most of them were not killed, but only mutilated too much to be ableish-bodied enough for the russian army!
(Serious note: this is the casuality number, that includes deaths, but also soldiers with wounds that put them out of service, like lost legs)
And then they send the mutilated back out into the trenches literally.
Some they do, but actually most they don’t. The casualty rate is about 40 000 per month, meaning that there are about 25 000 cripples per month. The Russian recruitment capacity is about 25 000 to 35 000 per month depending on the source, so there should be about one cripple for one four-limbed soldier if all of the cripples were sent to the front. In reality, their number is a tiny fraction of that, as we can see in the videos.
The fact they are doing it and there is footage of it is funny lmao
Armed only with crutches.
Nah, just pick up the crutches from the last guy that was in there.
Does that not include Russians defecting also?
Russians don’t really defect. They are told that Ukrainians will torture them for fun if they are caught alive and then kill each one, so it looks for them as if a 99% chance of dying on the field is still better chance than 100% chance of torture and then death anyway.
And because the Russian soldiers honestly believe this is how Ukrainians behave, they do that very thing to Ukrainians “in revenge”.
If they defect to the rear, they are shot by kadyrovite sheep enthusiasts.
So, whether the number includes defects is largely irrelevant. Maybe they do, maybe they don’t, but that won’t affect the numbers even by a tenth of a percent.
It’s not mere personal gain with Putin. The man has a vision of returning Russia to glorious Soviet Union. Probably felt kicked in the balls when it all fell apart. Remember, he was the head of the KGB, an extraordinarily powerful man. Maybe even more powerful than the Premier? Dunno.
He likely felt he would quickly crush Ukraine, make them an example, and then move on to other lost, and weaker, countries.
He was never the head of KGB. He was planted as the prime minister by KGB precisely because the big guys at KGB believed they could control him when the prime minister becomes a president by the president resigning.
The other important people in KGB would never have allowed for the head of the KGB to become the president if the Russia, because they were his competitors.
When he SU fell apart he was clerk in stasi.
Yeah, but let’s keep hating every russian, because they ‘freely choose to enlist’ and invade other countries. They love being shelled by Nato artillery 🥰
They didn’t freely choose to enlist but if you put a gun in my hand and tell me kill that innocent person I will rather shoot the person giving me the order
Easier to say than to do. But for the ‘innocent victim’ case you should look instead at Israel. That’s where the innocents are killed by en mass by direct order.
I think both of you are oversimplifying.
Choice and freedom take on an entirely different meaning when you have a state media bombarding you with anti-Ukraine propaganda 24/7. It’s easy for us to say from the sidelines that we’d never get swept up in a war against innocents, but probably a lot of the soldiers have been fully indoctrinated with the idea that Ukraine are a threat to their families. Not to mention they probably now have friends and family who have been killed or wounded in this war.
Putin is the real villain here. He not only started the war, he’s the one who has kept it going by his refusal to withdraw troops, silenced political opposition, lied to his population, influenced global politics in his favour by buying elections, and used his subjects as fodder in this pointless war.
It’s fucking twisted the amount of suffering one thoroughly evil man can cause.
Well, now you are oversimplifying world politics to one man’s deeds. As if Nato expansionism did not play any role in the creation of this conflict. Read a little history before 2023 and you’ll see acquiring Ukraine is been a race between Nato and Russia since at least 2014.
Russia had already invaded in 2014, and successfully got a puppet as president in 2010.
NATO doesn’t expand by conquest, countries choose freely to join and other countries (especially hostile ones) don’t get to dictate the alliances of their neighbours.
What if I told you they’re not an innocent person, they’re a Nazi?
And if you refuse to fight Nazis, maybe it’s because you’re a Nazi yourself, hmm? Maybe we’ll investigate you for that, and keep you in prison while we do. And of course we’ll be investigating your friends and family to see if there are any Nazis there too.
That’s the condensed version, but you get the picture. There’s a lot more going on than just “here’s a gun, kill them”.
Exactly. But it’s just easier to plain hate than to understand.
They were probably told Ukrain had Weapons of Mass Destruction, and so it’s their DUTY as defenders of freedom to invade and stop these terrorists! … oh, wait
Riiiiiigght.
Be conscripted and die, or fight conscription and die.
Cowards to the last man.
Russian soldiers are mostly not conscripted, but enlist because the salary of a factory worker in a rural town is around 70 € per month, whereas the salary of a soldier is about 2000 € per day, which means a monthly salary each day, including weekends.
They go killing because they are okay to kill others in order to get a richer life for their family. And that’s not an okay reason. They have chosen their fate and deserve death.