Bro, the reason the school calls them “volunteer hours” is because the places that need help are asking for volunteers. Even though it’s mandatory for students, these are hours at a volunteering opportunity. Interacting with the community is part of growing up, and part of their education. It’s not slavery.
you aren’t strictly forced to go to school, it’s your parents who will suffer the consequences for you not going, but yes forcing kids to go to school when they clearly don’t want to is an extremely shitty thing and leads to lots of issues.
maybe if you did yours you’d understand that “and” means both conditions need to be fulfilled for a statement to be true. so how is that child considered a property of anyone in this situation?
the definition part of the definition is the paragraph next to “1.” the bullet points below it are examples of how it applies. you provided that definition, are you telling me that on top of not understanding the meaning of “and” you also failed to understand the formatting itself?
it’s to teach children (and their parents) how to volunteer and where, by assigning public service to the kids. it’s not called public service because volunteering is what it will be once the teaching is done, it’s avoiding confusion of teaching something that is called another word after you finish school
if your child doesn’t want to brush their teeth, are you going to insist that their personal freedom is the most important thing and let their dental hygiene suffer? that forcing them to brush their teeth is somehow slavery? (as small as it is, it is work after all)
it’s 15h a semester, a kid can do ~1h of helping out around the neighbourhood a week and pass easily. oh no! a child is being made to help people for an hour a week! learning the benefits of helping and gaining experience doing small tasks! literally slavery!
you gotta touch some grass buddy, smell the flowers, talk with parents, talk with teachers, relax
then go ask an ethics board of your nearby university their opinion, see how many people actually agree with your overtly exaggerated understanding of “child slavery”. because holy shit man, i’m a leftist, so far left i’m an anarchist, i’m all for freedom and consent, and even by my standards what you’re saying is just– wild
what? (._.) <- this has been my face the entire conversation, sometimes (o_O) <- this
this is not what moving the goal post means. at least look up things before saying them
i would make a rational argument, if i thought my argument would be met with an equally rational response. but so far you haven’t really shown off your ability to do so, so i’d rather outsource that task to someone who at least would make some money from a conversation with you
My dude it’s typically called service learning and your pessimistic and overly pedantic take on it isn’t great.
The notion of these activities is to get kids out in the world to see how it works and interact with its systems AND possibly have them help out and learn about things.
When I was in school I did my service learning with a nature conservancy near me, it was fun and was treated like a school assignment.
They’re not slaves and your comparison is wild for anyone living in any form of servitude.
Yes and no. For kids doing it, it’s more “community service” but for this kid, he keeps going so it turns into a love of volunteering.
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But he keeps going. Freely. So it is volunteering now. The first 15 hours was not volunteering by definition, but it is afterwards.
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Talk about absolutism. You didn’t address this, and you didn’t read my comment. I’m done.
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Bro, the reason the school calls them “volunteer hours” is because the places that need help are asking for volunteers. Even though it’s mandatory for students, these are hours at a volunteering opportunity. Interacting with the community is part of growing up, and part of their education. It’s not slavery.
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They do change contextually, though? That’s sorta the whole basis of language.
By this logic isn’t school just slavery?
you aren’t strictly forced to go to school, it’s your parents who will suffer the consequences for you not going, but yes forcing kids to go to school when they clearly don’t want to is an extremely shitty thing and leads to lots of issues.
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Thanks for the response, I appreciate it.
do you think homework is slavery too?
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maybe if you did yours you’d understand that “and” means both conditions need to be fulfilled for a statement to be true. so how is that child considered a property of anyone in this situation?
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the definition part of the definition is the paragraph next to “1.” the bullet points below it are examples of how it applies. you provided that definition, are you telling me that on top of not understanding the meaning of “and” you also failed to understand the formatting itself?
They are using volunteer to imply that the work cannot be payed
it’s to teach children (and their parents) how to volunteer and where, by assigning public service to the kids. it’s not called public service because volunteering is what it will be once the teaching is done, it’s avoiding confusion of teaching something that is called another word after you finish school
i think you might be overreacting a little bit
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genuinely, how old are you?
if your child doesn’t want to brush their teeth, are you going to insist that their personal freedom is the most important thing and let their dental hygiene suffer? that forcing them to brush their teeth is somehow slavery? (as small as it is, it is work after all)
it’s 15h a semester, a kid can do ~1h of helping out around the neighbourhood a week and pass easily. oh no! a child is being made to help people for an hour a week! learning the benefits of helping and gaining experience doing small tasks! literally slavery!
you gotta touch some grass buddy, smell the flowers, talk with parents, talk with teachers, relax
What else would you call forced labour with no paycheck?
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then go ask an ethics board of your nearby university their opinion, see how many people actually agree with your overtly exaggerated understanding of “child slavery”. because holy shit man, i’m a leftist, so far left i’m an anarchist, i’m all for freedom and consent, and even by my standards what you’re saying is just– wild
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what? (._.) <- this has been my face the entire conversation, sometimes (o_O) <- this
this is not what moving the goal post means. at least look up things before saying them
i would make a rational argument, if i thought my argument would be met with an equally rational response. but so far you haven’t really shown off your ability to do so, so i’d rather outsource that task to someone who at least would make some money from a conversation with you
My dude it’s typically called service learning and your pessimistic and overly pedantic take on it isn’t great.
The notion of these activities is to get kids out in the world to see how it works and interact with its systems AND possibly have them help out and learn about things.
When I was in school I did my service learning with a nature conservancy near me, it was fun and was treated like a school assignment.
They’re not slaves and your comparison is wild for anyone living in any form of servitude.
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You’re alone on this hill and I hope whatever traumas of your past have you this worked up don’t keep clawing you down.
This is a pretty uninformed and awful take my dude, enjoy your little cesspool.
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Take solace in knowing everyone else is wrong.
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Can’t wait to wake my son up and
make him do his choresput him to a ‘slavin