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cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/post/228035
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even though you gain nothing
Faulty premise. If I return the cart, I do not need to navigate my car around the cart as I exit the parking lot. This, alone, is a reason to return the cart to the designated collection zone.
You also normalize returning the cart and impressionable people around you will see people returning carts and increase the probability that they will return carts in the future. Together, these increase the probability that on the future, the carts will be where I want them at the front of the store and not all over the parking lot.
Also I get to be smug
The most ethical decision is to leave your cart at the top of an incline, aimed at any pickup making more than 1 space unusable. Just behind the rear passenger bumper is also acceptable.
What about aiming it at a line of motorcycles the biker gang rode in on?
Don’t forget, these things become fucking wrecking balls in windy storms. So not putting it away during a wind storm means you’re a full on pos. Ive seen it sooo many times.
Worked at a grocery store growing up, I confirm this meme wholeheartedly! And now shopping at certain retail places, all able body between the ages of 17 - 30 should work on carts for an entire season so one understands the shity criterions.
Before college I worked at a grocery store and initially I bagged groceries and gathered the carts
I always wonder if this meme is put out there by some penny pinching Kroger executive trying to justify paying off more of their bottom line workers.
My perception though is of a small grocery store with like 20 carts max and gathering up wasn’t a big deal…having seen how many the guys at Costco pull at once looks pretty rough on the other hand
no it’s because I’m sick and fucking tired of having to dodge carts all over the place because some lazy Karen thinks they’re too important to walk 50 more feet
What is it with every regional grocery store being owned by right winged pricks? Like I moved from a publix dominated area to a Kroger one and it just saddens me that there are no ethical alternatives outside of becoming a homesteader and growing my own food.
Edit; who’s out here shilling for billion dollar corpos?
“What are you gonna do, stop eating?”
They get off on it I think.
I put them back in the cart corral.
Mainly because the business has to pay someone to go get them.
I don’t put the gym weights back so the employees can get a workout also. Youre welcome. /$
Same reason spill shit on their floors
They have to pay someone to get them if you don’t put it in the corral, plus it would take longer
They also don’t take up as much space in the lot and don’t get blown into random cars. It’s pretty clear-cut.
Yes, I get that. My comment was in reference to the person above me, who started they only put them away so the company has to pay someone to bring them back in. If that is really their reason, they could make the company pay more by themselves doing less.
But the company isn’t paying them only when they are collecting carts. They are there on a schedule and have to be there for that allotted time. They don’t clock in and out every time they go collect carts.
Correct, but the more time dealing with carts means less time doing other things that need to be completed, meaning they need more employees, this costing them more.
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The solution is to be so broke you dont need a cart to finish grocery shopping.
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The trolley return is the decent human checker of the world.
I’ve always said I was going to run for president on the platform that we have executioners in parking lots who take out people who do not return their shopping cart, but are able to. I think it would solve almost everything.
But it’s kind of like “God fearing” Christians - if they only do it out of fear, not because it’s the right thing to do, does it really count?
Hey, they said sorry to their imaginary friend after fucking you over repeatedly. That’s not good enough for you?
That’s honestly fucking disgusting. Forcing the people to do free labour under the risk of death for massive corporations turning a higher profit from said free labour.
You need to rethink your moral compass.
work on your sarcasm a bit, it doesn’t quite come across well enough tbh
I gain the satisfaction of doing my part to keep society turning.
I gain the satisfaction of simply putting things where they belong.
Can’t we please just kill some people?
Always. Lazy assholes leaving their carts where they’re not supposed to go is a pet peeve. I will grant exceptions if the person has some kind of legitimate mobility issue, but that’s rare.
Always. I will give someone a talking to if there is a return nearby and they don’t use it.
I just glare at them judgmentally, knowing there’s nothing I can do to make them a better person.
There may be urgent reasons for not returning a shopping cart, but I think that at most one in a million shopping carts is actually not returned for such a reason. Usually, the reason is quite simple: poor character.
I used to return the cart when the concept was “return the cart to avoid the grocery store having to hire someone to collect carts, increasing their overhead, thus raising prices”.
Then we learned, at least in Canada, that the grocery chains kept prices high after the pandemic well after the supply chains settled down. They even did a second wave of higher prices. They are price gouging so much they’ve never seen such high profits.
They have also made a move to get rid of regular checkout, pushing robotic checkout so they don’t have to hire humans and they can increase their profits even further.
The shopping cart question used to pose itself as “do you help society and return your cart if there is no reward for you.”
Let’s rephrase it. “Will you do free labour for a multi-million dollar company who is laughing all the way to the bank with record profits while some people in society are going hungry because they can’t afford the higher prices?”
I NEVER return my cart now.
The problem is, that the only person you punish is some 16 year old making minimum wage.
It’s not a punishment. It’s part of the job.
If we keep putting away carts and self checking our groceries, that person won’t have a job.
They take in the carts from the designated cart returns.
Why are you working for free for a multi-million dollar corporation that doesn’t give a shit about you? Just leave your cart anywhere. Someone will be along to collect it.
Because I care about the people that work for them. The only person acting like a cold hearted corporation is you. Why have you let their actions steal your humanity? If you can’t bring yourself to help out someone making around minimum wage and then use corporate greed as an excuse, you’re kind of a piece of shit.
Because I care about the people that work for them.
Give me a break. You are pretending returning a cart is some sort of moral high ground just because it’s pointed out you’re doing free labour for multi-million dollar corporations with nothing in return for you.
If you REALLY cared for the employees you’d be standing outside the store demanding they pay better so they employees can get above the poverty line and no longer need food stamps to survive.
What kind of 10 year old child logic is that? Unless I can devote my life to a cause there is no point in making anything better? It seems like you’ve crafted a world view where you get to act like a conservative asshat but with the smugness of a Hasan type loser. So glad I don’t know someone like you irl.
Why stop there? You could leave a bunch of little messes around the store so the wage slaves have plenty to do.
If they keep purging human workers over profits, I just might.
Being lazy under the guise of helping people get jobs?? Gimme a fucking break 😂. Lemmy never ceases to amaze me
Massive grocery chains don’t give a shit about you. They are happily starving society for more profit.
If you think taking your stupid cart back is some sort of noble deed, you’re a sucker. All you’re doing is helping the CEO keep his overhead down.
This just changed my mind on the trolley problem.
