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minus-squareRicky RigatonilinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10arrow-down22·8 days agoYou can’t enslave animals.
minus-squareHawk@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·7 days ago Slavery is the ownership of a person as property, especially in regards to their labour. Wikipedia. Animals are persons nowadays?
minus-squareauraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·6 days agoI don’t need Wikipedia to tell me that animals are persons and not property. Anything that has a conscious perspective has personhood.
minus-squareHawk@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·6 days agoI wouldn’t say having consciousness is enough to define a person.
minus-squareSas [she/her]@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·7 days agoAny arguments on why you think that?
minus-squareapotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·6 days agoWhere have I heard this argument before
minus-squareapotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·6 days agoI’m serious insofar as I think that sentient beings absolutely can be enslaved. Am I drawing the parallel to the rhetoric of racist slaveowners in earnest? No.
minus-squareSas [she/her]@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·7 days agoI think you’ve not spent time around any animal other than human if you think that
minus-squareSmoothOperator@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up15arrow-down3·8 days agoIt’s actually pretty easy, many of them barely fight back
minus-squareRicky RigatonilinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down13·8 days agoIt’s like they know their place.
minus-squareSmoothOperator@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8arrow-down3·8 days agoIt’s more like they barely know anything. Like toddlers or something.
minus-squareRicky RigatonilinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down6·8 days agoToddlers are basically animals, yeah.
minus-squareDragonTypeWyvern@midwest.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7arrow-down1·7 days agoAll humans are literally animals but also yes
You can’t enslave animals.
Yeah you can.
Wikipedia.
Animals are persons nowadays?
I don’t need Wikipedia to tell me that animals are persons and not property. Anything that has a conscious perspective has personhood.
I wouldn’t say having consciousness is enough to define a person.
Why?
no
Yes.
Any arguments on why you think that?
They’re not people.
Where have I heard this argument before
are you serious
I’m serious insofar as I think that sentient beings absolutely can be enslaved. Am I drawing the parallel to the rhetoric of racist slaveowners in earnest? No.
I think you’ve not spent time around any animal other than human if you think that
It’s actually pretty easy, many of them barely fight back
It’s like they know their place.
It’s more like they barely know anything. Like toddlers or something.
Toddlers are basically animals, yeah.
All humans are literally animals but also yes