1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards
2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Community Ban
3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
(I have not posted there)
Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I’m not sure how I’ve broken rule 4
Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don’t engage in.
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to ‘fuck off’.
Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.
Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML’er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.
This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.
Oh are we doing that shit now? banning someone from one community for activity in another is so Reddit.
It’s been going on for a while. Some of them legit (if you’re on a known homophobic or fascist comm then a Queer one may do it to orotect its userbase) some of them agenda peddling (apparently i’ve been banned from a comm i never even knew exist and labelled “ableist” for posting on fuckAI)
Ahhh the rich tapestry of humanity
This was an extremely quick “we went a full circle” moment.
I got banned somewhere because there still is an account with my name in an .ml instance (which comes from my first looks into this and shopped around for a suitable place, but with .ml being no good, wasn’t used for nearly two years).
Some “admins” need their heads examined, and their privileges get taken away…
Getting banned from communities you don’t even post on, Lemmy really is a full featured Reddit replacement.
Aha, but does Reddit have a YPTB to call out the PTBs? I thought not! Checkmate!
… Spez’s inbox?
I had to check which community I was on.
It used to before admins shut it down for “harassment”.
Except lacking notification that your content was removed. And a mod mail to ask questions about why. Together that makes lemmy.ml even more authoritarian than Reddit! (For an instance owner Lemmy offers freedom, but for an end-user not so much.)
Also it’s missing polls. And user and post flairs. And multi-communities. And… well, need I go on? (PieFed has all of these already btw.)
perhaps lemmy.ml is, but no one is forced go on that instance
.ml is there and available on the fediverse in the same way that warm and somewhat leaky packs of discount meat are there and available on the shelf.
Problem is the tankies aren’t staying there. One of them has even managed to infiltrate the db0 leftymemes mod team… despite it’s claims of being “free of the “ML” influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.”
Wait which one is that? I might be missing something here.
The one with “lemmy.ml” behind their username. I just blocked that /c, and I’m not unblocking them now to check.
LMAO, good riddance
Just an FYI, ‘“ML”’ there refers to Dengists.
An excerpt from rule 3:
actual ML’s are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don’t just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago
No need to explain yourself - your actions have already spoken for you.
The way it looks is the way it is.
Fair enough, I’m not gonna make ya do that either.
leftymemes community, ive seen that community pop up quite alot.
leftymeme gives off a TANKIE vibe, how obvious can they be.
Have you considered just going back to reddit?
Have you considered being nice to people? You’ll have friends that way.
Fucking cringe ass reddit speech. Like you learned to talk from Joss Weadon movies
…take that as a no then
“maybe you should be nice to people”
“omg that’s so cringe”
Being a terrible person is their entire personality.
Indistinguishable from maga. Weird.
Kindness is a liberal lie! I will hoard all my toys and means of production!
So, no friends?
So you can’t be nice to people, no wonder why you’re like this.
i’m still here buddy, love ya
reddit has the crossbanning feature yea so much reddit. probably the easiest test to do is commenting joe roegans sub
PTB, it was probably because you keep triggering them in /c/leftymemes. Also lol at the hexbears in here calling YDI because their feelings are constantly being hurt.
EDIT: Omegalul at all the salt below.
Weird how they came in here suddenly.
B-but it was on all of our front pages! Ignore when we post it, link it, screenshot everyone, on our Slop community! Then talk about how much we hate them but don’t do anything to stop getting angry about it on the same community!
Edit: it keeps happening, wow I’m so shocked.
Edit 2: on the front page of Slop, users from Hexbear commented and then went to the post being discussed https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/59235577?scrollToComments=true
“But we don’t do that! Lemme just prove we do!”
Why did you link to a different post?
It was an example, I probably could have cleared this up
It’s just weird saying that’s the proof while saying they’re the ones causing drama.
And it’s still there while admitting it’s incorrect
Thanks. I don’t mean to rock the boat so often in your house, it’s just where all the good comms are. Let me know if it’s ever too much and I’ll stop.
The downside to me explicitly choosing an instance that defeds hex and grad is that I don’t get to see their impotent rage.
It’s not worth it, but you can view this page from db0.
I normally agree with most of your sentiments, but not this one. if anything it seems the most sodium is coming from you and a couple other commenters in this thread. I hope you know I mean no disrespect.
I’m not one to defend hexbears. in fact most of the time I’m wary of anyone with that instance username, but in this case I think you’re being a bit unfair.
I have OP labeled as a troublemaker as I’ve seen him behaving poorly in a few places. swearing at people and calling them tankies just for disagreeing with him, etc.
I don’t think this is a left/right/hexbear/instance war- thing. it may just plainly be a “not nice” thing.
What, what did I do?
nothing, I just don’t think many of the hex commenters in this thread are being all that salty (which nobody finds more surprising than myself). most seem to have found the thread through normal channels.
maybe there’s stuff going on behind the scenes that I am not aware of, and I’m wrong. its entirely possible.
but just from an outsider perspective, it seems most are behaving fairly decently.
do they not realize, they are more like conservatives than they like to admit.
/c/leftymemes
Lib memes. Garbage comm. Banned me for persistent thought crime. Good riddance.
It totally isn’t because you’re a serial ragebaiter or anything, or your foul attitude. No, it’s totally because of thought crimes. LMAO
No no, they’re the wrong ones for banning people who said things that break rules.
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Jesus Christ, you’re really going to look at their behavior and praise it for, essential, “triggering the libs”? You are basically just a right wing chud so long as it’s attacking communists
They’re not triggering the libs. They’re triggering tankies with lib memes. That’s supposedly ok.
I wonder if this thread will be what gets them to do anything about the one cheering for drama but claims to hate it
That is typical .ml nonesense they a a bunch of jokers
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately
the lack of effective blocking is what really kills Lemmy….
it’s like it was custom made for harassment and brigading.Adding features to stop that is actually counter revolutionary, if you don’t like spam you’re actually a liberal.
If I block someone - I never see their content, posts, or messages to me again.
What aspect is ineffective?
In most cases, you’d want a block to go both directions. Imagine you’re being stalked by a user. In its current implementation, blocking that user won’t stop the stalking, because they can still see and interact with your posts. You simply won’t be able to see their interactions. If they comment on your post, you won’t see it because you have them blocked. But your block does not prevent them from seeing, voting on, or commenting on your post.
Essentially, lemmy’s current block function works more like a mute. When you “block” someone, you’re just muting their interactions so you don’t see the harassment. But it doesn’t actually stop them from harassing you. It just ensures you can’t see it to stay on top of it. To use the earlier stalker example, what if they’re amping up their stalking and have started doxxing you, and you’re completely oblivious because you’re not seeing their responses to your posts?
most other fediverse softwares have blocks run two ways to reduce risk of harm via stalking, brigading, and dogpiling. there’s a difference between muting someone and blocking them on things like mastodon. on lemmy blocks are equivalent to mutes on mastodon
I can see how that would be very helpful to some people. Thanks for explaining
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately
this someone can still follow you and downvote everything you post, and comment on everything you post, and all you’ve done is make it so you can’t tell.
I mean… I guess that’s not ideal? On the other hand, they keep wasting their time, and I get on with my life. So I’m OK with it this way.
that’s fine if you assume it’s just one single person and you’re still on the 1997 internet
Well now I’m not sure what you’re after. If it turns into brigading that’s a separate issue, and blocking one or two users from seeing your post won’t fix that, right?
Idk if it’s even rage downvoting when op does vindictive stuff like this https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/58724904
Or doing exactly what they’re complaining about here to that same user
i’m not offering an opinion on that, i’m talking only about the ineffectiveness of “blocking” on lemmy
Please don’t let Lemmy turn into reddit where loser mods make this a site about pushing their personal opinions.
such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml
unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community
Wheeze… More! Do you do standup?
Look ma i’m in the picture!
I think by rule 4 they meant lemmy.ml’s one, i.e. ‘No Ads / Spamming.’? But it’s very odd they’d ban you in that one specific community.
External users downvoting is considered “vote spamming”. You can check my moderation history, they used that justification for me. I just downvote low-value content as I see it.
That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Are you serious? They consider downvotes originating from outside the instance, spam?
They’ll find any excuse to ban you if you say something the admins don’t like.
Apparently.
Can I please get your autograph?
Yeah I assumed it was that, but it was so poorly worded and completely unwarranted by anything as I’ve never posted so cannot spam or ‘ads’.
Spamming dissent, their most unforgivable sin.
Spamming dissent by saying nothing, a new low for Devel.
Clear PTB from .ml here. Jesus Christ.
PTB.
I am so sorry you’ve had to go through this awful experience. It is entirely unsurprising for that mod in particular. Extremely defensive 100% of the time whenever they encounter an Anarchist.
Thank you for your continued support, I am considering legal action to recover the monetary damages for how distressed I am by this unprovoked rageban.
lol cringe
Low quality troll, try harder lol
lol where’s the troll besides someone “seeking legal action” against an online community that has apparently caused them sufficient distress to merit damages, whilst they’ve self-admitted they’ve never participated in said community? what a victim mentality.nobody is owed participation in an online community, and if someone has predetermined that you aren’t allowed in their communities, you should call them an asshole and move on with your life if you even care that much. jfc what delusions are people under that they think there’s any actionably legal consequences to something like this?
Okay so you’ve either proven you can’t parse obvious sarcasm or you’re still an unimpressive troll. Congrats.
honestly, given the rest of his comments, i’m not giving the benefit of the doubt on sarcasm anymore. if you’re this upset about a ban from a community you’ve never interacted with, then it seems odd to be upset enough to document things this thoroughly and make a drama based post about it. you can’t drop sarcasm like that whilst ostensibly acting genuinely in a manner befitting that which you’re professing to mock via sarcasm.
Edit to add: the reason sarcasm works is because people are supposed to be on the same page about things. reputation matters in interpersonal sarcasm, e.g. i can make much more sarcastic deadpan jokes in a group of friends whilst i wouldn’t do the same when i’m talking to a random person in public. on the internet, and especially on a federated network, it is difficult to assume a reputation when many instances interact. thus it seems reasonable to assume that, given what i’ve seen on this thread, he’s not being sarcastic.
lol cringe
lmao, even
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Amazing display of left unity today by Hexbear.
We can’t call out bad faith actions and active spamming to tire people out, but they will gladly jump down your throat.
They can ban people for asking too many questions but if we ban them we aren’t leftists.
You call them out it’s a tirade and a rant. You give them links to show they have a bias, you’re the bad guy.
Rules for thee not for me is what Stalin wanted after all, it’s just praxis for them. Can’t wait to see how many are angry at us for not obeying their rules on another instance.
Blah blah “but muh all” blah blah “post hog” blah blah “you just hate us for causing a mess and cleaning it up”. Hope you guys have jobs and interact with real humans and stop LARPing as the revolutionaries Stalin would have shot when they stopped being useful.
Amazing how to some we’re the Tankies when we didn’t say Stalin wasnt Christ reborn and we get spammed with it. I come back from work and I have more messages than when I upset someone with a bot farm.
Left unity my ass. We can’t criticize you but you’ll kill Makhno and say you did us a favor. Can’t wait until Hexbear circlejerks about this and swear this time for real they’ll defed from us.
lemmy.ml is operated by emotionally stunted clowns.
Be fair to clowns, they contribute meaningful social commentary.
that also would never live in places like china or russia but they love to fantasize about those 2 countries all the time.
That rule 4 probably refers to the instance wide rule 4, which seems to be “No Ads / Spamming.”
Which is still weird because I’ve never made no posts or ads in the community.
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I tapped on the link and joined the Telegram group. I am now winning indeed.
This is the tankie malding I live for. 😂
Cue another post in c/Slop about this time they’re 💯 gonna defed from us for sure
i’ve been actively avoiding hexbear but i had nothing to do but laugh looking at their slop community misrepresenting an anarchist saying that anarchists don’t just engage in critical class analysis but in other forms of hierarchical exploitation. like. the context was so completely obviously saying that anarchists engage in multiple forms of anti-authoritarianism, and class is one of them
i guess marxist can only be marxist? they can’t ever apply critical analysis to anything else?
how can they be anarchist when hexbear is a ultra-left leaning community.
i don’t know what you mean. anarchism is an extremely leftist position and the poster in question wasn’t on hexbear. the post that made it onto hexbear was a marxist-leninist effectively ignoring what the anarchist was saying critical analysis means to anarchists.
But we don’t do that at all! Hexbear insisted!
I get that some communities want to curate their content and contributors, but pre-emptive bans and such aren’t going to be an effective method. It’s usually net counter-productive, as we see playing out here.
Most people won’t understand, care, or even notice. The few that do tend to take it as a provocation than a lesson, anyway.
