• jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
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    24 hours ago

    The headline is not correct.

    All religious symbols are banned for teachers. This is because the schools are supposed to be neutral when it comes to the question of faith. The teachers can believe in anything they want, and practice any religion in any way they want - but in their professional role, they must not favour any faith, be it explicitly or otherwise.

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      23 hours ago

      I wonder wo strict you can enforce that, ot how true that is in the real world. Like no one would stop anyone wearing a cross with a dead guy on it. And they still hace religion class in school, but obviously just one religion. The teacher of my girlfriends then ü yesr old daughter told her that her mom wouldn’t be in the same afterlife as her, because she’d go to hell. It’s a fucked up thing to say imo, no matter what you believe, but i doubt anything would’ve come out of it if she made a big fuzz out of it. If it were a woman with a different believe with funny headgear on, this woyld’ve blown up like crazy.

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        no one would stop anyone wearing a cross with a dead guy on it

        A teacher, while teaching? Of course they would, as that is now illegal.

        The teacher of my girlfriends then ü yesr old daughter told her that her mom wouldn’t be in the same afterlife as her, because she’d go to hell.

        What the fuck. What a terrible teacher.

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    So headscarfs for male teachers are A-OK?

    What about headscarfs as a fashion statement instead of something religious?

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    How about we stop talking about how people look like and solve real problems instead.

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    If it is a ban on all religious symbols for state employees who are teachers, I am fine with that. To call it xenophobic is not a very convincing argument as there are Swiss people who are muslims and for many muslims a hijab isn’t a fundamental part of the religion. Making exceptions for muslims just is unfair treatment for everyone else. A secular state means citizens have freedom of religion and that religion has no place in state business.

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    2 days ago

    Are they worried elementary schoolers will convert religions due to their elementary school teacher’s religion?

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      its about the teachers being state (or rather canton) employees and the state and school is supposed to be free from religion. you wont see a cross on the wall either. thats the reasoning as far as I know

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        While i don’t agree with the hijab or other religious coverings because I see it as a way to oppress women, it’s equally dumb to forbid women to wear it. A school should be non religious, but that doesn’t mean that you have to eradicate all signs of religion from school grounds, just that the teaching can’t be based on it.

        This seems more xenophobic than well thought through.

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          necklaces with a cross probably are banned too, the question is, if it gets enforced

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          For it being xenophobic other similar clothes would have to be allowed. Are there Teachers dressed as Nuns, Monks or Cardinals?

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            No, they are not. Wearing a cross isn’t allowed either. The ban is for all religious symbols, no matter the faith.

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            Anatole France: ‘The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.’

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                It’s applicable because while the law might impact the occasional nun, I suspect that what they’re really out to do is target Muslim women.

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                  I think we have very different interpretations of that quote.

                  When I try rephrasing it to something more concrete, it’s not really about the proportions of people it affects at all. It’s “the legal system has made it impossible to be poor”. As in there is an inherent flaw in our society where being poor and being law abiding are mutually exclusive, and that we should do something to ensure that people have a social net to not have to break the law, but also in the meantime be more understanding that these people have no other option.

                  That, to me, seems totally irrelevant to religion in schools. This isn’t a matter of life or death, of having to choose between breaking the law because you need somewhere to sleep. If we provided everyone with a place to sleep and means to live, then problem solved. Seems like a pretty clear cut answer.

                  What’s the solution for religion in schools? If we lived in a society where there were equal numbers of nuns and hijab-wearing women, would you be okay with the law?

                  I personally think the answer is it doesn’t matter. Schools are about education. They have (or should have) ethical codes to not corrupt their students, just as doctors have ethical codes for treating patients. We don’t hang crosses on the walls, and also shouldn’t hang them on school employees. Same goes for other religious stuff.

                  When you’re a practitioner of science, leave religion at home.