“Definitions” are irrelevant, I’m talking about practice.
It’s all well and good to talk about collaboration, until you start trying to accomplish something practical in the real world and then everybody just does their own thing, nobody does anything they don’t want to do, and none of the actual hard work gets done.
I’m an anarchist, I’d be all in for helping manage a federated co-op structure.
Managing is literally the easiest part. Finding someone to volunteer for shit shoveling duty is a lot harder.
Managing means shoveling shit if no one else will.
Amen. That’s a position I fully agree with. It’s not one most people who manage stuff agree with.
Hell, that sounds like actual leadership
That’s what management should be.
Exactly.
Well, one of us is confused.
Manage in the “make it work” sense, not the “boss people around” sense. Collaborative.
Well, OK, but a manager without the authority to tell other people what to do is just a consultant.
Sure, if you want to go with a narrow definition like that
“Definitions” are irrelevant, I’m talking about practice.
It’s all well and good to talk about collaboration, until you start trying to accomplish something practical in the real world and then everybody just does their own thing, nobody does anything they don’t want to do, and none of the actual hard work gets done.
Not with that attitude