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In order to create a stateless society, wouldn’t you first have to conquer all other states? Otherwise you still have a de facto state, whether you call it that or not.
No. You wouldn’t first have to conquer all other states.
What make a state exist in your society is the existence of violence, not the existence of other states.
Ah, so you’ve invented your own definition of the word “state”. And if a “state” is defined by the mere existence of violence, than a stateless society is an impossibility.
Ah, no, that in my comment is not a definition. You are misreading it.
You just defined it as such, right there… Or at least tried to?
No, he said that a state exists because of violence.
Definition: A human is a featherless bipedal Reasoning: Humans exist because of sex
I guess in theory that’s where the socialist state comes in to transition from capitalism to communism
I would much prefer a coöp commonwealth economy and a democracy with ranked choice vote, a mixed member proportional legislature, and a council of department secretaries as executive branch.
My issue with other socialist is that Leninists will never give up power for “the state to wither away” and anarchists are too allergic to any form of struct even if it is an entirely voluntary confederation style system.
I thought we were an autonomous collective.
I thought we were an anarcho-syndicalist commune
I’m an anarchist, I’d be all in for helping manage a federated co-op structure.
I’m an anarchist
I’d be all in for helping manage
Well, one of us is confused.
Manage in the “make it work” sense, not the “boss people around” sense. Collaborative.
Well, OK, but a manager without the authority to tell other people what to do is just a consultant.
Sure, if you want to go with a narrow definition like that
“Definitions” are irrelevant, I’m talking about practice.
It’s all well and good to talk about collaboration, until you start trying to accomplish something practical in the real world and then everybody just does their own thing, nobody does anything they don’t want to do, and none of the actual hard work gets done.
Not with that attitude
Managing is literally the easiest part. Finding someone to volunteer for shit shoveling duty is a lot harder.
Managing means shoveling shit if no one else will.
Hell, that sounds like actual leadership
That’s what management should be.
Amen. That’s a position I fully agree with. It’s not one most people who manage stuff agree with.
Exactly.
Tell me more about this commonwealth economy? It sounds interesting.
how can you maintain a proletariat rule without a dictatorship? /s
See, if dictators call themselves proles, then it totally is a proletariat. After all, we’re all equals, my comrades.
Rigth?
“communists”
Everytime
Still, still not a word. It hasn’t been a word, and maybe it will never be a word.
That must irritate you everytime.
The great thing about language is that it’s constantly evolving and changing because of how people use it and seek to communicate with each other. New words are added to our lexicon all the time. For example, imagine telling someone in 1980 to just go Google something.
Maybe they’re just Britney Spears fans!
I cri evrytiem
Did you understand what was communicated? If so…
every time *so far
homer_simpson_meme.jpgMight I introduce you to Anakin’s thesis on TToDPTW?
At this stage I’d settle for no more billionaires, and for corrupt politicians to be jailed. Too much to ask?
