• 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish
    2·
    7 天前

    Wonder what percent is the chance you get it shipped with the CPU cooler plastic cover still attached

  • whereitsat@lemmy.zipEnglish
    22·
    6 天前

    dumb people have always bought crap. just because components are more expensive doesn’t change anything–a savvy computer user is always going to go for pre-built. i’d personally take out a loan before i bought a meta pc even if steep discounts are on the menu.

    it also makes me think that all the conspiratorial talk is just talk. maybe all these companies are conspiring to raise prices so they can sell you garbage like this pathetic excuse for a pc.

    but that doesn’t fit into the ‘all rich people are geniuses’ narrative. greed doesn’t require intelligence. even someone with an intense hunger and a 50 IQ is gonna try and put their hand into your burger king bag and swipe a fry or two.

    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 天前

      I’m a bit confused by this comment. This computer is a better option than the steam machine.

      Do you think that the Meta, as in Facebook meta, make this?

  • DupaCycki@lemmy.worldEnglish
    46·
    6 天前

    Aaand they’re more powerful for the same (or even lower) price. All the people saying you can’t build anything better than the Steam Machine for the same price have been awfully quiet these last few days. I guess the memes about Valve fanboys have some truth to them.

    On the other hand, the Steam Machine is smaller and needs less power, so there’s that. I don’t know if anyone cares that much, but I can appreciate very small PCs.

    • CaptPretentious@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      6 天前

      Can we just stop with the “these people have been awfully quiet the last few days”. Did you scour every location? Do you think people have nothing better to do than post the same shit all the time? This is some Facebook-level copium. Like when people feel they were justified when someone died or had complications due to the Covid vaccine and then people would say, “Where are all the supporters of it now…” Just stop.

      SteamOS support for hardware is in beta support. https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227

      Could other hardware work, sure. Potentially w/o issues. And yeah, it might be better in performance. But if issues crop up, is Meta PC going to resolve the problems? Is Meta going to contribute to SteamOS for driver support/bug fixes? If issues come up on the Steam Deck or Steam Machine… Valve are the ones you are going to address it, both hardware and software.

      If you want to build your own machine, and run whatever OS on it, cool. Don’t try gatekeeping/shaming people because someone wants the vendors version.

      • DupaCycki@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 天前

        But if issues crop up, is Meta PC going to resolve the problems?

        Spoken like a true Apple user that needs their hand held 24/7 or else they’re helpless. Seriously? Do you need constant customer support for a PC?

        Is Meta going to contribute to SteamOS for driver support/bug fixes?

        What sort of question is that? Do any Windows PC vendors contribute to Windows? lol

        Don’t try gatekeeping/shaming people because someone wants the vendors version.

        Absolutely not gatekeeping anything. Just shaming fanboys that were proven wrong beyond any reasonable excuse. Valve being one of the most consumer friendly companies doesn’t mean it’s suddenly acceptable to follow them blindly like a religious figure.

    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      6 天前

      Is needing less power a plus when talking about a gaming pc? The steam machine uses less power than the competition because they’ve kneecapped the SoC with power draw limits, limiting performance.

      • DupaCycki@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        6 天前

        It’s not a major concern, or even a minor concern for most. But it’s still a plus. Less money spent on electricity bills (even if it’s a tiny amount), and less strain on the environment (even if it’s an even tinier difference).

  • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    6 天前

    Hey guys there’s a ram and storage price gouching going on because of the AI bs. Hey guys here’s a pc with an open source OS re-built for 1,000$ each. Hey guys there will be a new model next year and they might even start a subscription service next year but you’ll all buy it anyways because the price point will seem better but you’ll all bitch about the subscription service…

    Fuckin’ shit.

    • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      4·
      6 天前

      Are you high, friend? How is any of what you wrote related to SteamOS and the GabeCube?

      • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        6 天前

        Am now I actually wasn’t when I wrote that. I have like a fucked up first thing in the morning agitation psychosis thing and writing down bs replies makes it fun because then I do medically smoke cannabis see what I wrote and then delete it after laughing and saying fucking shit…

        It’s kind of a wild ride.

    • Jax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      6 天前

      Where are you seeing that Valve is planning on making SteamOS a subscription service??

      • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 天前

        And you know what it wouldn’t be hard. Force users to be online and to log in to steam and if you don’t log in to steam which would hold your premium user pass which would enable the randomized access key to the premium/registered version of Steam OS that you’re able to have full control over vs the downloaded iso that has half the features and no way to unlock the premium features/using the OS, being able to access the VR Games, access anything up and coming and new releases without paying.

        …

      • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 天前

        Also going off of the market trends of Google and Apple always making a new model with planned obsolescence with the old one and locking features due to the inability to update.

        So one of the biggest gaming companies on the market right now (Steam) is making model one. When will model two be released and will you have to pay annually for it? Will there be planned obsolescence?

        We don’t know? We’re ½ and ½ putting faith into an open source software with gaming hardware in a pc sold by Steam…

        That’s a fuckin’ leap of faith.

      • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 天前

        I don’t I’m just going off of the last decade and a half of market trends shifting away from traditional ownership of a product you puchase to forced renting with an indefinite subscription service.

        I guess I should’ve said I wouldn’t be surprised if they did a subscription service after it does well and then moves features and then people will have to pay for premium Steam OS or full registered version or full access with all options vs free to try open source OS that is restricted from users adding any new features via open source that would make the premium obsolete in order to maintain revenue.

        I 100% wouldn’t be surprised.

  • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10717·
    8 天前

    It feels so needlessly aggressive. Valve openly stated that there are alternatives to the Steam Machine, and they aren’t trying to own the market. Calling your prebuilt the “Steamroller” is kind of a dickhead move. That’s like Del Taco coming out with a deep friend taco shell and calling it “Fuck your Chalupa, bitch.”

    ITT: People who have no idea how marketing and advertising work.

    • Atropos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      83·
      8 天前

      That’s not really how I read it. Clearly they are leveraging vale products, (steam os) so include steam in the name. They probably want this name to evoke strength and power, so what’s something with steam in the name that is powerful? A steamroller.

      I don’t think it is meant to roll steam!

      • KoboldCoterie@pawb.socialEnglish
        202·
        8 天前

        They specifically advertise it as an “upgradable alternative to the Steam Machine”; with that in mind, assuming the name isn’t intended to evoke comparisons to Steam Machine is kind of ridiculous, no?

    • Whitebrow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      29·
      8 天前

      I’m not sure I’d be able to order a “fuck your chalupa, bitch” with a straight face, but I’ll try.

    • bigbangdangler@reddthat.comEnglish
      28·
      8 天前

      Eh, I see your point, but it feels pretty tongue-in-cheek to me. Steamroller is just a cool name that implies the thing is a workhorse.

      • KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        31·
        7 天前

        A little bit more than just hardware, it’s also official support from Valve, who are also the creators and maintainers of both Steam and SteamOS. We’ll see how much that counts for, I think Valve doesn’t have a great reputation for their support.

      • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
        12·
        8 天前

        The Steam Machine also still has the advantage of HDMI CEC. Since none of the GPU manufacturers seem to want to bother with even on cards with HDMI ports.

    • rafoix@lemmy.zipEnglish
      5·
      8 天前

      What about making a spherical system and calling it the Steamcube?

      I think it would get massive amounts of free advertising. Not sure if it would sell because I wouldn’t want it.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      7 天前

      What’s the problem with it, exactly? As long as it lives up to its promise and is a better machine, why shouldn’t they market it as a better machine or make direct comparisons?

      It’s not even saying the steam one is bad, just that it is better.

    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      7 天前

      That’s like Del Taco coming out with a deep friend taco shell and calling it “Fuck your Chalupa, bitch.”

      I would go to Del Taco right this moment if this were real.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      8 天前

      Or, theres only so many ways you can make a punny name on Steam OS.

      But of course that doesnt allow for righteous indignity.

  • auzy1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    831·
    8 天前

    And unlike Nintendo switch, you can play games you bought 15 years ago… and use other stores or emulation

  • MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    761·
    8 天前

    I’m on the reservation list for a Steam Machine and personally have no regrets, but I’m so happy these exist. I don’t think it has to be a big competition, but between not appealing to a mass audience and have limited stock, the Steam Machine may have inadvertently ushered in a prebuilt Linux PC revolution, and that’s a wonderful thing.

    • KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      7·
      7 天前

      inadvertently

      I suspect Valve knew what they were doing, and while they probably care more about having prebuilts with Steam preinstalled and convenient to use, they included desktop mode in SteamOS and made sure the steam deck was open to tinkering.

    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      6 天前

      You’ve been able to make a low powered Linux machine whenever you wanted to. The Steam machine didn’t change anything.

    • dzsimbo@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      311·
      8 天前

      Can we finally say it? Is the year of the Linux desktop finally upon us??

      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        7 天前

        The year of the Linux desktop came and went honestly a while ago with kde 6 and proton hitting the scene.

        Now it’s the year of the Linux pre built.

      • ghurab@lemmy.worldEnglish
        141·
        8 天前

        nah, it’s more like the year of the linux game console, if anything.

        • Axolotl@feddit.itEnglish
          7·
          8 天前

          Neither the Steam Machine nor this Steamroller are consoles tho

          Edit: grammar

          • ghurab@lemmy.worldEnglish
            12·
            7 天前

            something something quacks like a duck, swins like a duck, it’s a duck. The steam machine does swim like a duck behave like what is commonly referres to as a game console. The steamroller is debatable tho.

            The steam machine:

            • Custom hardware
            • Custom software and os
            • Specifically designed to play games
            • Has a dedicated controller
            • Designed to work well with a living room TV (HDMI-CEC)

            The only difference between the steam machine and other consoles is that it’s not locked down

          • bridgeburner@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            7 天前

            The Steam Machine ain’t a typical PC either, at least that’s not the intention on how it is to be used. It’s kinda a PC-console hybrid.

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    8 天前

    Not that it’s a bad thing, but did anyone ever offer something like Bazzite before?

    OEMs were waiting for SteamOS because it shifts the OS support to Valve instead of DIY, but I wonder if anyone tried before SteamOS was ready.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      4·
      8 天前

      Bazzite itself has an OS image specifically for handled PCs, and even desktop Bazzite has an option to boot into game mode basically “Big Picture mode”

      They’ve had this for a while

  • Sunspear@piefed.socialEnglish
    10·
    8 天前

    Yknow, other than the 16GB RAM (reasonable given the situation), this aint that bad, for similar specs (Ryzen 5 7600, RX 6750 XT), I paid 1100€ at most two years ago

    Of course, the rest of the components also matter, as well as the VRAM difference, but could be worse anyhow