He woke up and thought “today, I’m going to be the shitty politician that punk rockers sing about”, and then he did it.
Had to do a double-take, thought this was an onion headline.
The picture even looks like the parody version you’d see in the music video.
Can YOU, a regular citizen, openly declare your desire to commit genocide and still retain YOUR job?
Fortunately, the wealthy aren’t a race of people, so it isn’t considered genocide if I begrudgingly devour each and every one of them for the good of mankind. Checkmate moralists.
Commonly genocide is associated with race in media, but the legal definition is broader in the UN Genocide Convention: “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”. The wealthy can be easily associated with specific national groups. Check the case of Pol-Pot en Cambodia for a rather extreme example.
Ah geez. I might lose my job when I’m done eating. Bummer.
Not if you start with your boss.
The people I work with sure can.
Well yes you can. Plenty of people chanting from the river to the sea are keeping their jobs.
Let me guess, 30,000 dead Palestinian civilians at the hands of the armed wing of one of the most advanced intelligence machines in the Eastern hemisphere is just “defending their right to exist”.
Take a look at the map. There’s one country in the region surrounding by countries whose Jews have been ethnically cleansed. The rest of them were forced to covert during the Arab conquests that swept the land. You’ve got Iran, Hamas and more all openly saying they want to murder the inhabitants of that lone non Arab country so ya, they’re clearly defending their right to exist.
Also interesting that you’re accepting the numbers from the terrorists who started this round of fighting without question. Do you really think that not a single Hamas fighter has been among the dead? There was a Lord in Parliament the other day speaking on the civilian/combatant ratio being around 2.5:1, or about 9k of those dead being militants. Suppose you’re taking Hamas numbers over the UK’s on this cuz it fits your narrative?
What a piece of sh1t he is. Dismissing lives with the ease of a psychopath with power.
You can say “shit,” it’s okay.
But instead they said shONEt
Is that, like, sonet but with flatulism?
It’s a portmanteau of shit cunt, obviously
Shwunt.
Pretty much like every other politician, except that he is open and honest about it, unlike most of his colleagues.
Turns out yes, things can get much worse for Palestinians if Republicans win in November.
I’m not from America. I only know Trump and Biden. Are republicans trump side?
Yes
When I hear things like Dearborn MI is voting for Trump, there’s a sick part of me that wants to see what would happen if the Arab community was the reason Trump got into power.
Like, I understand that you’re very angry with the current situation but are you actually going to ruin your life and that of millions of your supposed brothers in the middle east to express that anger? Do people forget what Trump did as soon as he was in office last time?
If both parties are going to genocide Arabs while they’re in charge, the blood is on their hands and no one else’s. Only assholes and morons will blame Arabs in the US for the massacre of Palestinians.
Things can get much better for palestinians if nobody votes for red or blue
They won’t win.
Good thing Genocide Joe is doing his best to kill all Palestinians before then.
This is hate speech and illegal in my country.
It should be illegal in any country.
Sadly, in the U.S., “freedom of speech” has become almost totally meaningless. Our supreme court decided that money is speech, which is why we now have things called political action committees (PACs) which aren’t supposed to work with campaigns *wink wink, nudge nudge* and can raise unlimited funds from anyone anywhere in the world legally. Unsurprisingly, Trump’s PAC has been paying his legal bills.
Freedom of speech in America means the freedom to call for, advocate for, and organize violence against anyone you like so long as they aren’t white and/or Christian.
If you say violence is bad, or call for violence against those Advocating for and organizing violence though - THEN it’s hate speech.
speech should not be illegal, everyone should be free to say what they want. If you don’t like what someone is saying don’t fucking vote for them. Protest against israel are already illegal in many countries, that’s what not having free speech brings you.
Got it. Money should equal speech because it’s illegal to protest against Israel in many countries.
Andy that’s genocide.
Andy says, “darn tootin’ it is!”
You can tell the press is broken when he isn’t permanently called a “Genocide Enthusiast” or something similar by the press for as long as he lives.
And this is exactly what will happen if Trump is re-elected.
It’s happening right now
No, they are not all being killed. There are about 2 million innocent people in the entire Strip. Death figures according to the Gazan Health Ministry are around 30,000 currently.
It’s not impossible though, it’s been attempted before in history, by ethno-nationalist asshats just like Netanyahu’s supporters.
This can get much worse. Many zealots want it worse.
Just because we’re not yet at MegaGenocide™ package doesn’t mean much, most of Gaza is rubble now. That two million people have pretty much nowhere to return to. Israel wanted ethnic cleansing (as they have explicitly stated time and time again, Zionism is a fascist ideology) and they’re getting it
I don’t disagree. Just realize, many, many more people can die. Netanyahu is a criminal, propped up by these ethno-nationalists. He doesn’t care.
We’re all very aware the potential for greater loss of life exists.
Bibi is also propped up by Biden’s unwavering support. The UN’s ceasefire resolution has been blocked 3 times by the US. Unchecked Zionism could easily lead to the catastrophic death tolls you refer to, as if 30k innocent civilians isn’t already beyond abhorrent. Biden is the most Zionist president in US history.
Try floating a UN resolution that isn’t just calling for a cease fire, and actually has some enforcement mechanism. That might be worth a look.
Without a ceasefire, it isn’t possible for medical personnel to treat the 10s of thousands of sick, injured, and starving. IDF forces are blowing up ambulances trying to help.
Without a ceasefire, critical humanitarian aid such as food, water, and medical supplies cannot be delivered. IDF forces are blowing up the delivery trucks even if they travel along so called safe and authorized corridors.
Without a ceasefire, Israeli hostages held by hamas will continue to perish instead of get rescued. IDF forces brutal bombing campaign affects them just as much as Palestinian civilians.
To demand anything less than a ceasefire is, at this point, to betray your racism and disregard for Arab lives.
To suggest that the US isn’t also blocking UN efforts to send peacekeeping troops to monitor for and prevent war crimes being committed on a daily basis shows me you’re very ignorant, or extremely malicious. No amount of dead children could change your mind, and for those like Bibi, no amount of dead children will ever be enough.
A ceasefire is only a mandatory first step. Israel must end the occupation. Palestine belongs to Palestinians.
Genocides usually have a threshold of a few thousand. Is your point, that 30,000 dead civilians that were killed by indiscriminate bombing campaigns by the country with the best military intel on Earth, is not that distasteful a number?
No, that is not my point. My point is that any assumption that our own American ethno-nationalists cannot make the Gazan situation dramatically worse is misplaced. It can get so, so much worse. It can potentially fully succeed.
We have American people that advocate for genocide too, you know. And when they say it, they’re thinking the Holocaust, not a few thousand. They’re not pretending, or playing around.
“They’re not all dead yet it’s not a genocide.”
You. That’s you. Stop literally excusing an ongoing genocide. Fucking pathetic.
No one said it’s not a genocide. It’s a genocide. More people will die under Trump. This is a worse outcome.
Indeed, it’s happening right now and it will keep happening. Stop voting for red and blue
I love all the comments like “Biden isn’t being tough enough on Israel! Biden isn’t stopping the genocide!”
Besides the fact that people are asking Biden to do something that directly hurts US foreign policy interests…
Do they REALLY think that the Republican party is on the side of stopping brown people dying? Biden in office is probably the most gentle response Palestine is going to get for 10/7. Republicans are frothing at the mouth to boost JDAM and Paveway kit sales.
If preventing a genocide is hurting “foreign policy interests”, then those interests are shite.
exactly what i was thinking.
if this is the lesser of two evils, you probably have reached evil long ago.
Yep they keep saying lesser of two evils while the options get more and more evil despite claiming “incremental progress”. Moderates are completely disconnected from reality or they’re just too afraid to actually push for something better.
The problem is with Trump, particularly, there’s good reason to be afraid.
“We want to punish the democrats for supporting Israel, so we are going to let Trump win”
GOP proceeds to double down on oppressive wars, no improvement for Gaza. Further, you get a government full of leaders that, in the wake of losing in 2020, openly pondered ways of just rigging the election so they don’t have to get votes to win anymore. You had laws proposed in GOP states to declare the legislature could pick whatever electors they wanted ignoring their voters. You had people running for non-partisan election administration positions promising they’ll make sure Republicans win, no matter what. They actively tried to send fake electors that particular cycle, even without any legal backing.
So, in at least one scenario, congratulations, you successfully admonished Biden for his misbehavior, and now, we have at least as bad misbehavior, and maybe some unwinding of democracy to make sure we never get to influence foreign policy ever again.
The problem is with Trump, particularly, there’s good reason to be afraid.
I agree. The threat of Trump seems like a bigger risk to me than the risks introduced by stopping the supply of arms to Israel or vowing to veto any attempts to block a rail strike. But apparently moderates and Joe Biden would prefer to avoid those risks and instead gamble they can win the general election anyway. But what do I know? I’m not part of the majority voting bloc so I’m not responsible for what happens.
I’m not part of the majority voting bloc so I’m not responsible for what happens.
I mean, to the extent any voter is “responsible” for what happens, if you abstain from voting or explicitly vote for a candidate you know is going to lose to make a point, then you have some responsibility for the result, and thus it better be a result you reasonably expect to live with. If you think Trump isn’t any worse than Biden, then voting for the candidate you like best, their chances be damned makes sense. If you sincerely think Trump is a risk that can’t be tolerated, then when general election comes around, you unfortunately should probably vote for Biden.
I personally think Trump is too problematic to risk his victory on principle. Any other presidential contest I can recall, sure, punish the mainstream by voting third party, it’s not like any of the presidential candidates were that much worse than the others. If somehow Haley became the republican frontrunner, by all means, I might not prefer her, but I don’t have a dire sense of dread about her. She wouldn’t be a better choice than Biden on Gaza, but at least your vote was probably clearly seen to be one he forfeited because of his stance. It’s just a matter of how important it is to vote against a particular candidate as to whether you have the comfortable option of voting for your favorite versus voting against an unfavored candidate.
I mean, to the extent any voter is “responsible” for what happens, if you abstain from voting or explicitly vote for a candidate you know is going to lose to make a point, then you have some responsibility for the result
The vote of a majority of people in the country will have no impact on the result of the election whatsoever. Most of us don’t live in the sliver of electorally competitive states.
If you live in Georgia, you should be deeply pondering the very real consequences of a protest vote, but this idea that every voter is responsible is just not how our system works.
I mean, to the extent any voter is “responsible” for what happens
Sure. But the bulk of the responsibility rests on the moderates as they are the majority voting bloc.
I’ll accept my grain of responsibility as someone from an, apparently irrelevant, minority wing.
Quick question, can you explain to me how it wasn’t evil to burn babies in their cribs, rape daughters in front of mothers, and behead fathers in front of sons? Cause I really can’t see it any other way after 10/7.
the world isnt black and white and one evil can’t justify another, even greater evil. its a convenient excuse, but its good to notice oppression has the habit of creating more of the twisted people you speak of.
the world isn’t black and white
Evil
Incredible that this amount of cognitive dissonance can fit into one sentence.
motherfucker is tryna justify genocide dude, thats not a hill to die on.
I hate genocide, like the genocide that Hamas committed on 10/7.
Wahhhhhhh the US should support the people I like!!!
Supporting Israel’s genocide of Palestinians is directly harming the US’ foreign policy interests.
The entire point of Israel’s genocide in the end is to perpetuate war and conflict so rightwing nutjobs like Netanyahu can retain power by killing people and claiming they are keeping people safe instead of doing actual leadership work and passing effective policy to save people.
In that sense Israel’s genocide makes the entire world less safe by empowering strongman leaders like this.
The foreign policy of most on the right is basically “Turn it all to glass.” Which is terrifying.
You’re thinking of ruzzia lmao.
Are you seriously incapable of viewing Biden’s actions outside of a lens related to the upcoming election?
It’s almost as though some people are incapable of holding two thought in their head at the same time: the RNC is absolutely fascist and pro-genocide, and Biden is doing the wrong thing in this specific situation and should be criticized for it. If all criticism of a president must stop, you live in a dictatorship. This one just happens to be a two party dictatorship where one awful party is kept from criticism by the threat of the other being even worse.
Literally everything every politician does is towards their next re-election. Literally everything. It’s ignorant to think otherwise.
Part of representing their constituents is to satisfy the most voters to vote for them in the future. It’s not a hard concept.
This is a total non-sequitur, you don’t seem to understand the conversation you’re involved in and nothing about your other responses suggests there might be an intelligent conversation to be had were it corrected.
Yet you seem unable to debate the point. Hmmm.
How does that even make sense? GOP being worse doesn’t mean that Biden is doing a great job. He’s bloody well FUNDING and ARMING the genocidal IDF. That there is a worse option doesn’t make Biden’s actions in any way “good”.
I immediately stop listening to anyone that is calling the current situation genocide. No better way to tell me that your opinion is worthless than to use words incorrectly.
The UN Convention on Genocide defines it like this:
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
"a) Killing members of the group;
b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
So, point for point, the only one Israel hasn’t done in Gaza is “e”. But to be clear, you don’t have to hit all 5 to be a genocide, just one is enough. Russia is hitting all 5 in Ukraine.
Yes exactly, the slaughter on 10/7 WAS genocide.
A repressed people cannot commit genocide against their repressors.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner’s_slave_rebellion
Great, so Israel can’t commit genocide against Palestinians due to 80 years of oppression through terrorist attacks?
I’d hardly call what the Palestinians do “oppression”, they aren’t in a position to oppress anyone.
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Besides the fact that people are asking Biden to do something that directly hurts US foreign policy interests…
Why would enabling the genocide of Palestinians benefit US foreign policy?
Also, isn’t our current beef with Yemen and the 96% drop off in Suez traffic a direct result of Israel’s War in Gaza? Isn’t keeping the Suez open to traffic pursuant to US foreign policy?
Do they REALLY think that the Republican party is on the side of stopping brown people dying?
I think that America is a Fascist Nation enabling the will of some of the most deranged and brutal regimes in human history. Between the Israelis, the Saudis, the Indian Hinduvistas, and the Duterte/Marcos cartel in the Philippians, we’ve got - bare minimum - four Fascist regional governments that we are falling over ourselves to help perpetuate atrocities of nightmarish proportions.
Republicans and Democrats seem to be in alignment in supporting all of these horrifying campaigns of mass slaughter. If this is the future of American politics, our government deserves to fail and I pray that our failed state is wiped from the face of the Earth.
The US does not negotiate with terrorists. The US is not going to abandon it’s interests just because some anti-semitic people don’t like the US supporting Israel. It is directly contrary to the US foreign policy interests because it signals that the US is willing to abandon allies in the face of attack. Imagine if the US had withdrawn support from Israel after 9/11, an attack which was specifically in retaliation for US support of Israel.
The US does not negotiate with terrorists.
Government Negotiations with Terrorists: US Edition
Also:
Negotiating with Terrorists, from the Journal of Police Negotiation, 2001
There is no evidence that hard-line policies reduce terrorism or even discourage political extremists. It is a given that negotiation with both types of political extremist should be undertaken, with terrorists requiring very special handling. Examples of two scenarios of airplane hijackings are given with the advice that the terrorist will be a catalyst for tragedy if a misstep is made in negotiations. This article does not present solutions, but raises awareness of the difficulties involved and the need for help, even in the realm of the exotic, along with qualified special consultants being sought to offer advice.
This is the worst case scenario for Gazans and people who know them. They don’t care about Biden’s infrastructure record or Trump’s position on NATO.
No, worst case scenario involves nukes.
To you. For them they’ve already lost entire branches of their extended families. A figurative nuke already went off for them.
Oh dear, have they done anything to stop 20 years of build-up of tunnels and weapons underneath them?
Have you done anything to stop your government from building military bases?
Why would I try to stop something that I fully support? Last time I checked, the US doesn’t have a policy of slaughtering civilians.
Lol you should check what we consider to be acceptable “collateral” casualties.
The irony of those hicktards…
…which translates to genocide.
My grandpa said the same thing and now he’s gonna die without ever seeing me again. Hope he’s proud.
Good for you for drawing a line, it must have been hard but that degree of hate is incompatible with love.
Can we bring back the proposal that any politician who advocates in favor of an offensive war/conflict be then immediately pressed into service on the front lines?
If he wants to kill Palestinians so badly, maybe he can man up and do it himself rather than speak platitudes across a desk.
Shove this in the face of the GeNoCiDe JoE!!1!1!1 idiots who can’t seem to grasp that they face a binary decision.
What’s fun is that I regularly ask, “who should I vote for to prevent Trump from being president?” I rarely get an answer, but I do get told I support genocide. It’s extra-fun when I tell them I want to stop Trump to stop people like my queer daughter from being the victims of a genocide. That often makes them double down on telling me how much I want there to be a genocide.
I’ve even been told I should care more about people on the other side of the world than my own daughter’s life.
I am extremely sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and absolutely condemn Israel’s genocide… but at the expense of my own child’s life? Fuck no.
Anything to stop Trump and Republicans from putting queer people in “conversion” camps where they’re tortured to death. Because that’s the goal.
Not to mention trump would do the same if not worse in terms of foreign policy “genocide”
Edit - my quoting of genocide was not to imply I find it farcicle, just to be clear.
Agreed, although they usually say I shouldn’t vote for either option as if there is a viable third possibility of a winner even though they never name that person when I asked… except for one guy. He said Cornel West. His reasoning? Both Trump and Biden could die before November and then Cornel West would win because anything is possible in the universe. Seriously.
I mean, many things are possible, including that outcome, whereas FTL and time travel do not seem to be possible. The question is, how probable is that outcome, and can you do anything to steer matters to it in a realistic way? I’d have to say that anyone sane enough to actually effect that outcome is too sane to come within a kilometer of even spending the time to plan it, let alone actually try it and die on the protective detail’s bullets.
Honestly, I’d rate FTL and time travel as slightly more probable than electing a third-party candidate as President.
trump would do the same if not worse
The orange mobster has displayed his intentions against Muslims and it is far worse. Biden has sent several envoys to warn Israel that what they are doing is alienating the world and consolidating Arab support against them which will result in even more violence against Israel. For Biden to go against Israel publicly would hand the election to the orange tyrant.
You need to stop having those conversations and focus on what’s important. Right now, if the election were to be held, Trump wins in a landslide according to the polls (assuming EC more or less follows the popular trend).
What do you need to do before November to ensure that your queer daughter is protected in the extremely likely case of a 2nd Trump administration?
I just hope they learn before it’s too late that the people who stand idly by and/or vote in support of genocide of Palestinians because they’re not Palestinian are the same people who will do the same with queer people like us because they’re not queer.
They’re already turning the corner on immigrants. The recent Dem bill is more extreme than any border laws passed under Trump. And now it’s getting even more extreme with the new bipartisan version.
Stop using us as a shield to protect your horrific genocide. I wonder if their daughter even knows they’re appropriating her queerness to support slaughtering tens of thousands of children.
Excuse me? Appropriating? Trying to save her fucking life is appropriation?
Taking her being queer and using it as an excuse to ignore the slaughter of @innocents?
Yep you are appropriating her queer status to use.
In what way am I ignoring Israel’s genocide? I discuss it here on a daily basis.
It’s not a Dem bill; it’s a bipartisan bill. It was the Democrats compromising in order to save Ukraine.
And your last paragraph is just disgusting. No one’s using you as a shield here. And no one is ‘appropriating her queerness’.
Do you have any idea what you’re even going on about? You seem to feel pretty strongly about it while not knowing what you’re talking about. That or you’re just buying into some sort of propaganda without thinking about it, which I guess amounts to the same.
They’re actually correct in how this thread is using queer people as shields for Israel’s genocide
There are queer Palestinians as well. Although there are far fewer today than there were 5 months ago
One of my closest friends moved to Tennessee right before his adolescent daughter came out as queer a few years back. I feel so bad for that kid. Her family is supportive of her, at least, but what a nightmare place to have to live as a gay kid.
Oh wow, yeah, that must suck. Poor girl.
I’m not making excuses for anyone here –
I expect it is extremely confusing for many people when “Jewish” is a religion, an ethnicity, a nationality, a nation, and a political football. This leads to anything the Israeli government opposes to be construed in the same light, which is how we get people equating “Palestinians living in severe apartheid conditions inside the borders of the nation of Israel” with “Hamas.” And, of course, anyone who opposes the actions of the Israeli government is likely to get branded “antisemitic,” because if you oppose the Jewish nation you must also oppose the Jewish religion, ethnicity, and nationality, right? (Narrator: Wrong.)
Because of this conflation of so many different things being called the same thing, I try to make absolutely clear what I’m talking about (when I dare dip my toe into those shark-infested waters). Hamas fucking sucks. The Israeli government fucking sucks. What both of those entities do - and have done for a very long time - demonstrate that they are both genocidal shitbags. Supporters of either, be they Israeli citizens, Palestinians, or third parties, fucking suck right alongside them.
But I’m talking about a domestic issue here.
The fact is, both Trump and Biden will support genocide in Israel… but only one of them might commit genocide on queer people domestically. And it isn’t Biden.
I will do anything I can to keep my daughter and all other queer people safe. That means keeping Trump out of office at all costs. If voting for someone else will do that, great. Until someone tells me who that person is, I will have to hold my nose and vote for Biden.
Oh, sure - to be perfectly clear, nothing I said was intended to address that concern, and your position is absolutely sound. I was only referring to the tangent of “I rarely get an answer, but I do get told I support genocide,” outside of all that.
One of the other people who responded to her literally accused her of supporting genocide because she’s focused on her queer daughter in the comment they replied to and not on Palestine.
Genocide is a hell of a fucking wedge issue.
It becomes a lot easier to get someone to trade up active current genocide for non-active future genocide. That anything works both ways and the GOP knows.
Last election I got to vote for “grab 'em by the pussy” or “black kids are just as good as rich kids” (or something similar. I can’t remember the quote exactly and I don’t have time to look it up).
This election I get to vote for genocide or genocide. I can’t wait.
Edit: I’ll take Biden over Trump any day. Trump terrifies me. I’m terrified of how many Americans are going to die if he wins. But I hate that these are our options.
One of these people was trying to do some good and made a verbal fumble probably caused by years of conditioning that got him where he is today and yes, old people say stuff like this by accident. He probably does have racist thoughts that he knows are bullshit but were put there by the shit job older generations have done in building society.
The other guy is a raging psycho who echoes Hitler phrases in his speeches.
Maybe vote to stop genocide of people in the country in which you live over a genocide that would happen whether or not Biden was in office because Trump would support it too.
Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.
Show me 1000’s of queer people being starved, left without power, medical help, water.
Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.
The same place the genocide of queer people in Germany was in 1932. Do you know what happened in 1933? Do you know what happened between 1933 and 1945?
But please, do tell me who I should vote for that has a statistically likely chance of winning the U.S. presidential election in November and will also definitely end the genocide in Israel. Give me that name.
Idgaf who you vote for.
Once again, you do you, but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.
I’m not here to stop you, I am here to make sure everyone realizes they are supporting someone who has ACTIVELY helped Israel commit genocidal actions.
Not passively, he bypassed congress twice already to send them more fucking shells.
You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.
Idgaf who you vote for.
Because you don’t care about queer people.
but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.
Because you don’t care about queer people.
You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.
I’m sure you think that because you don’t care about queer people.
The whole phrase ‘bypassing Congress’ is propaganda. It’s literal weapons sales. Those are not required to go through Congress. I disagree with those sales, but what he’s doing is perfectly legal and not backhanded.
I can’t believe anyone is so fucking willfully ignorant they can’t see how much worse Trump is, but here we are.
If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black jack
I think these people are more typically from troll farms than genuinely pro-Palestine, but some of theme probably are that stupid as well. I guess it’s a mixed bag.
There’s plenty of stupid out there. I tend to go by Hanlon’s razor for this sort of thing: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
I think that motto has been losing it’s power recently. Ol’ Hanlon didn’t conceive of malicious stupidity
The reach of Troll Farms is very broad and very deep: https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/amp/
We are just sick of our government assisting Israel in its genocidal actions.
You want my vote, earn it.
Israel/US relations were at an all-time low under Biden already before the attack, and there’s every indication he’s using every back channel he has to make Netanyahu slow down his genocide. Sometimes diplomatic solutions are more efficient than a public Circus.
Honestly, at 30,000 dead.
Maybe it’s time we just step back and let Israel deal with the consequences of its own choices.
Shit let’s just start a new diplomatic relationship with one of their enemies.
We can be all like “Look here’s plenty of guns, ammo, and missiles. We are friends now, have fun!”
Yeah, US cutting its unconditional support to Israel was overdue decades ago. Howevers, as long as the rest of the political landscape doesn’t follow, Biden acting unilaterally and publicly just amounts to political suicide with no gain for anyone.
I’ve even been told I should care more about people on the other side of the world than my own daughter’s life.
Most likely they don’t have children of their own. Easier to say dumb shit like this.
I have 5 kids and I am the one who told them that.
They said they were afraid of their child going to a conversion camp.
I said that we can fix mistakes if everyone is still alive and pointed out that they would have to be the one to put them in the camp.
So yes, I believe that the importance of irreversible death is more important than temporary troubles.
I stand by that.
Alive?
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/lgb-suicide-ct-press-release/
But I’m guessing you’ll say those suicides were their fault, not the conversion therapy’s, so anyone put in those camps will be just fine.
Because you don’t give a shit about queer people.
100% the camps fault.
Who put them in the conversion camps to start with?
Their parents for now.
When Trump wins? Probably the government. Which is the whole fucking point of why I WANT TO KEEP MY DAUGHTER ALIVE.
For fuck’s sake, you seem to think I should just abandon her or something. Why are you so goddamn callous about the lives of queer people?
Once again you try to redirect this towards me being against queer people.
No problem at all with them and wish them all the best.
So you think that if trump wins the government might go against all previous examples and pass a law to force minors into conversion camps?
Maybe, but I guarantee you that other people’s children are starving, dying, and suffering right now.
But they are far away and brown so they don’t matter.
Very possibly, and maybe they also had parents who didn’t have much love for them, but to not understand or agree with the concept of a parent putting their own child first? That’s very weird.
Ah, so I watched the video. He got upset because he was getting pressed against his beliefs. So he said something to try and trigger them. Although, I totally believe he meant it too. Who the hell are these lizard people. Stop voting for lizard people ffs.
But if I were to say that about him and his family, he would want me prosecuted.
