As “P4x,” Alejandro Caceres single-handedly disrupted the internet of an entire country. Then he tried to show the US military how it can—and should—adopt his methods.
I don’t see the point in attacking North Korea when Lazarus et al are well known to do their digital wetwork via diaspora, so DDoS’ing a nation is effectively carpet bombing citizenry for government actions when you should be taking a scapular approach to threat actor countermeasures.
Seems like this person has anger blinders permanently affixed to their head and is only concerned with vamping up their own “hacker cred” to put weight behind selling their basic ass web vulnerability scanner.
Yeah good point on the anger glasses. He sounds like an agressive type of dude. Says he worked for Blackwater? The mercenaries company known for their crimes against humanity in Iraq, if I’m not mistaken? What normal person would want to work there?
DDoS’ing a nation is effectively carpet bombing citizenry for government actions when you should be taking a scapular approach to threat actor countermeasures.
my understanding is that the only NK citizens that have access to the actual internet is microscopic and concentrated in information warfare / scams.
Are you laboring under the false impression that the average citizens of North Korea have, forget regular, but ANY access to the internet? Carpet bombing doesn’t work if you’re already a ghost.
No. No I’m just calling out that this particular cyberattack was not as impactful to the everyman of North Korea as it would fit any other, more modernized country. Your point gains more validity the more networked a country is.
The article is paywalled. Did you read all of it? Does it specifically quote the author as saying “I want the same baseline response. Doesn’t matter who I attack”? Because I didn’t see that, but I didn’t bother to bypass the paywall. If you did and it’s in there, cool, guys a weirdo. If not, quit making up shit to fill out your narrative. You don’t know any better than anyone else unless you asked him or are him.
Well, bless your heart. I can remember when I used to mistake stuff like this as the want for people to talk with me; we’re not so different after all.
I’ve heard the same and I generally view that as propaganda since NK have been actively maintaining a Linux distro since 98 (Red Star OS) so it’s not like they’re total luddites, just under oppressive dictatorial control.
I personally can’t condone attacking random people based on geoloc for the actions of their dictator but I absolutely understand your point of view.
Not trying to change your mind but if the general public has internet it’s definitely just intranet. There’s no way they’re getting anything close to what we would recognize as the internet. Maybe I’m buying propaganda but I just can’t fathom the possibility.
lol, it’d undermine my argument if I was, wouldn’t it? Not sure if you’re being intentionally dense or just… obtuse. But here’s some further reading for you, you do you budnik.
I might need to go back and find sources but I could have sworn I read a thing that had Kim directly saying that it isn’t allowed among the general populace because it’s full of US propaganda. Same reason why jeans aren’t allowed.
Edit: I want to clarify that I would prefer the general populace had the internet so they could more easily educate themselves but AFAIK they don’t.
I believe you, no sources required; my personally held belief comes from a gut feeling and general distrust based on their historical movements.
Their M.O. has always been subversion and misdirection to make them appear stronger than they actually are, so you can’t take them at face value at all.
Internet access is available in North Korea, but is only permitted with special authorization. It is primarily used for government purposes, and also by foreigners … Online services for most individuals and institutions are provided through a free domestic-only network known as Kwangmyong, with access to the global Internet limited to a much smaller group.
I don’t see the point in attacking North Korea when Lazarus et al are well known to do their digital wetwork via diaspora, so DDoS’ing a nation is effectively carpet bombing citizenry for government actions when you should be taking a scapular approach to threat actor countermeasures.
Seems like this person has anger blinders permanently affixed to their head and is only concerned with vamping up their own “hacker cred” to put weight behind selling their basic ass web vulnerability scanner.
Hard pass on both qomplex and punkspider.
Yeah good point on the anger glasses. He sounds like an agressive type of dude. Says he worked for Blackwater? The mercenaries company known for their crimes against humanity in Iraq, if I’m not mistaken? What normal person would want to work there?
Yep, blackwater (or whatever it’s named now) is a massive red flag and not the cred he thinks it is.
Erik Prince is the driving force behind those mercs, there’s a ton of quality information published about his misdeeds.
Top tier bastard imho
my understanding is that the only NK citizens that have access to the actual internet is microscopic and concentrated in information warfare / scams.
Thank you for the attribution.
I do love me some links to read after a nice pithy comment :D
Are you laboring under the false impression that the average citizens of North Korea have, forget regular, but ANY access to the internet? Carpet bombing doesn’t work if you’re already a ghost.
…therefore you would be fine with this same action if it’s not NK?
The person in this article wants this same baseline cyber response to any countries attacking.
Look down the road where this decision takes everyone.
No. No I’m just calling out that this particular cyberattack was not as impactful to the everyman of North Korea as it would fit any other, more modernized country. Your point gains more validity the more networked a country is.
The article is paywalled. Did you read all of it? Does it specifically quote the author as saying “I want the same baseline response. Doesn’t matter who I attack”? Because I didn’t see that, but I didn’t bother to bypass the paywall. If you did and it’s in there, cool, guys a weirdo. If not, quit making up shit to fill out your narrative. You don’t know any better than anyone else unless you asked him or are him.
It was not paywalled when I read it all, so you can take your wrong ass half-baked opinions elsewhere.
I’ll have you know I’m fully baked, and don’t have any reason not to express myself here, so naturally, I’ma gonna.
Okay, that was always allowed, but seems like you’re just thirsty for conversation now.
Are you good?
Well, bless your heart. I can remember when I used to mistake stuff like this as the want for people to talk with me; we’re not so different after all.
My friend, I asked because I’m legitimately concerned about your mental health.
Do you need help?
I generally agree with you but isn’t the n Korean internet only used by the government and whatever rich people can afford it? I say fuck em.
I’ve heard the same and I generally view that as propaganda since NK have been actively maintaining a Linux distro since 98 (Red Star OS) so it’s not like they’re total luddites, just under oppressive dictatorial control.
I personally can’t condone attacking random people based on geoloc for the actions of their dictator but I absolutely understand your point of view.
Not trying to change your mind but if the general public has internet it’s definitely just intranet. There’s no way they’re getting anything close to what we would recognize as the internet. Maybe I’m buying propaganda but I just can’t fathom the possibility.
Heard.
All valid opinions, I won’t be visiting NK anytime soon to confirm for myself, but it’s a curious thought.
they aren’t random people, NK users of the internet have explicit ties to scams and hacking. The rest never get to access the WWW.
You’re from North Korea to confirm this as fact?
No more than you are to assert the opposite, sir.
lol, it’d undermine my argument if I was, wouldn’t it? Not sure if you’re being intentionally dense or just… obtuse. But here’s some further reading for you, you do you budnik.
https://www.csoonline.com/article/657312/north-koreas-state-hacking-program-is-varied-fluid-and-nimble.html
https://www.warren.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/icymi-at-hearing-warren-warns-of-threats-posed-by-north-koreas-crypto-funded-weapons-program-and-pig-butchering-scams-to-national-security
Read usernames and the rest of the thread, friend.
I might need to go back and find sources but I could have sworn I read a thing that had Kim directly saying that it isn’t allowed among the general populace because it’s full of US propaganda. Same reason why jeans aren’t allowed.
Edit: I want to clarify that I would prefer the general populace had the internet so they could more easily educate themselves but AFAIK they don’t.
I believe you, no sources required; my personally held belief comes from a gut feeling and general distrust based on their historical movements.
Their M.O. has always been subversion and misdirection to make them appear stronger than they actually are, so you can’t take them at face value at all.
Yes.
Wikipedia
Thank you for the attribution.