• xionzui@sh.itjust.works
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    18 days ago

    This is exactly the messaging of the oil companies and others who oppose climate action now that it’s too hard to deny. They want us to think it’s hopeless and give up trying to change anything. It’s not too late. Green energy is growing exponentially and has been possibly the fastest technological adoption in history. Millions of people are working on the science and technology to solve these problems. We just need some more collective action at the local and national levels. Carbon taxes, funding for green initiatives, local agriculture, and support for alternative transportation like e-bikes or other PEVs to start

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      Did you miss the memo that current AI is already using more power than everything we’ve managed to save with green energy in the last decade? We ARE fucked, the only thing we’re still debating is the exact timespan. Which is asinine, the result will remain the same either way.

      The only way I see to a path to salvation is a huge pandemic or world war, becausing nothing else will convince people. We’ve been trying (and failing) for decades.

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        The only way I see to a path to salvation is a huge pandemic or world war

        Good news! The odds are looking pretty high for both of those!

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        Carbon taxes fix the problem of using energy for dumb things. Climate change isn’t caused by us using energy, it’s caused by the fact that carbon pollution is free.

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        I need some anon to write me a virus that will wipe out all datacenters in one go, something that will irrevocably fry all enterprise hardware beyond repair. Let’s start over, with decent trust busting and without the plastic this time.

        (edit: I guess it’s not entirely clear but I’m expecting such a virus to hit the reset button on civilisation. Mass death, yes, but we won’t fuck the world beyond being liveable.)

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        The only way I see to a path to salvation is a huge pandemic or world war, becausing nothing else will convince people

        We had a pandemic already and war in Ukraine is raging on - and both only served right wing extremists to rise and ignore climate problems even harder. We are fucked. I don’t give up hope but it’s tiny

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          Because that power could have been used by someone else who’s depending on coal instead. You cannot separate power sources when on the grid.

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        Did you miss the memo that current AI is already using more power than everything we’ve managed to save with green energy in the last decade?

        You got a source on that? Cause that sounds fake

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        Necessity is the mother of invention, and new technology is only going to continue to use more and more energy. Conservation is not the answer.

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          No, there’s always a shimmer of hope and the non zero chance that we mean something for someone that could make a difference, or help make the difference ourselves. Even sometimes the tiniest good-hearted gesture will do it.

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        I keep saying, if Putin starts a nuclear war, we might save humanity. A nuclear winter will cool the planet. And with most of us dying of radiation poisoning, we won’t have the ability to start pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere. Yay!

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      18 days ago

      If solving the problem becomes impossible, the backup plan should be retribution, not complacency. That way they have an incentive to work with us.