Monero is an also-ran cryptocurrency, in the same proof-of-work family as Bitcoin and Etherium.

Monero.town is a Lemmy instance whose main communities are: Monero, privacy, Monero Memes, Meta, and Monero Mining.

Enough has been written on the negative ecological effects of proof-of-work based cryptocurrency that I think it’s not controversial to say it is incompatible with the Solarpunk vision.

Pictured inciting incident is a person advertising the crypto-capitalist Lemmy competitor “Nostr” in the anarchism community.

I don’t personally mind a debate about Nostr, but like most of the content from Monero.town, it doesn’t belong here. More sales pitches from a crypto-currency hype instance are going to be tedious, and crowd out the kind of progressive politics and human interactions we’re looking to nurture here. Reddit’s /r/anarchism had to constantly repel assholes trying to pass off their edgy capitalism as anarchist, Lemmy gives us the unique opportunity to send a strong message and nip this in the bud.

Fediverse sites that have already blocked Monero.town –

reject (10): solarpunk.moe, polyglot.city, freethought.online, icosahedron.website, sunbeam.city, vtuber.house, fruef.social, cutie.city, fuckcars.social, karas.social

followers_only (3): toot.cat, orbsafe.masto.host, partyparrot.social

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Jack@Monero.Town

Yea, that’s just not how Nostr works. Take a look here: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips These are implementation possibilities that the protocol enables. Every client must implement NIP-01. All of the other NIPs are optional so every client that you use (an app for example) has decided to implement different NIPs. You decide which client you use and how Nostr should feel like. Almost no client prioritizes content that received bitcoin.

Your “login mechanism” (private cryptographic key) has nothing to do with cryptocurrency. If you want to send btc to people you have to set that up yourself, manually linking a wallet to your key.

Five

I’m confused why you’re downplaying Nostr’s primary selling point - its close integration with Bitcoin. It’s clearly a cryptocurrency capitalist con job.

Almost no client prioritizes content that received bitcoin.

That’s not what I was saying, but I’m fascinated that you’re implying it’s much worse than I anticipated. Which clients have their priority linked to received bitcoin? ]

  • punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.netEnglish
    62·
    1 year ago

    I feel like there is really little overlap between the communities on both instances. Atleast I would probably not even notice the defederation.

    But since the instance seems to focus on the cryptocurrency Monero I would like to point out reasons why Monero might be relevant for slrpnk.net.

    • one of the ways to donate to the Lemmy project / developers is via Monero
    • for anarchy2023.org, which was a pretty big anarchist event (3000-4000 participants and 400+ workshops), Monero is one of the 3 ways to donate for covering the costs
    • we have !cannabiscultivation@slrpnk.net on slrpnk.net - while probably most people in that community are getting their equipment&seeds in a legal way (and do not sell drugslol), there are also many folks worldwide who have to rely on illegal ways to get those things. buying them online, using crypto like Monero might one way to do that

    I hope this does not come over as an endorsement of Monero. I just want to point out the small, but existing connections some folks on slrpnk.net might have with Monero

    • Five@slrpnk.netOPMEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      I knew that about Lemmy, but not about anarchy2023 - thanks for sharing.

      My position is not that anarchists shouldn’t use Monero ever under any circumstances, but that Monero is about as antithetical to solarpunk and anarchism as the Swiss banking system, which is incidentally another way to send support for anarchy2023.

      If there was a Lemmy instance set up as a grassroots marketing initiative for TWINT, I would suggest defederation from them as well.

      If Slrpnks are using Monero to avoid government oversight against better advice, using the same Lemmy account to post about growing cannabis and to comment in a Monero help post is pretty terrible security culture. Defederation discourages this privacy mistake.