Setting some odd stuff aside, like how the shooter was able to get onto such a close roof, despite people seeing him get up there. What really makes me curious is why the guy was such a bad shot.
Was it nerves, inexperience, or was the intent to make Trump into a martyr? I have to assume he probably was hoping for “suicide by cop”, and if your going to end things what do you have to lose but make everyone forget that he was just convicted and everyone now knows about his rapey, pedo past. Just makes you think… ya know?
20 year old kid with no military training shooting at a 6 inch wide target at 400 feet with no scope and only iron sights. Honestly the fact the he grazed the ear says to me it wasn’t that bad of a shot.
Interesting, that’s the first I’ve heard this. I’ll be interested to see if that gets confirmed. Though I just saw a photo of the secret service piling on top of him and there’s two intact teleprompters astride the podium.
inexperienced. head shots are not what professionals go for… that’s only if you want to show off. also there are reports Trump moved his head right before it happened and that could have saved his life. Yet another reason you don’t go for the head.
I think there was a photo showing a hit center mass, but people under the protection of secret service usually wear vests during campaign stops and rallys
We’ll need to wait on a full report to know on his accuracy. If only one shot was him hitting an ear going for the head at 100-150 yards is absolutely respectable accuracy. If 9 were him that’s quite poor accuracy.
I don’t understand how that’s possible? The teleprompter would presumably be in front of Trump but, his ear facing back was injured. Or am I missing something?
As someone else mentioned, this isn’t confirmed, it’s just what some law enforcement have claimed. However the teleprompter system has multiple reflectors off to each side so that the speaker can look side to side while tallking and still have their prompts. So it’s possible to have the glass blow back to one side of Trump. I am sure we will find out more in the coming days and weeks…
News article claimed he was turned away from his high school rifle club for being a shit shot. Nerves probably played a role as well, seeing his he got domed seconds after opening fire.
I saw the posts yesterday about how he was not accepted at his high school club for being a “comically” bad shot, which explains why this was so bad, but doesn’t explain how it was so good as the latest reports are saying he only missed Trump because he turned his head the moment he pulled the trigger.
What’s also odd is why he chose to use a gun to begin with, especially one without a scope. I’ve also read he has some kind of explosive devices in his car.
At the end of the day he seems to be painted as just another young white outcast male who dealt with bullying and social rejection, like most of the other mass shooters.
The only missing piece now seems to be motive. Guess the dude has been confirmed by multiple sources to be far right conservative. Why would he try to assassinate Trump?
In that type of situation, he would have known he wasn’t getting out alive. Did he fire only 1 shot? Also Crooks shooting a crook is just too good. Wtf timeline are we actually in?
Off by 2 inches, at a 150 yards, with iron sights, from a semi auto rifle, is not a bad shot. That would actually be an impressive shot at the shooting range. But you know what they say, “close only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades”.
The best explanation for how he got there I’ve heard comes from Robert Evans in the podcast It Could Happen Here, and it’s the fact that there were a lot of different snipers on roofs from various organisations and normalcy bias ensured that everyone thought he was somebody else’s and just figured everything was fine.
Setting some odd stuff aside, like how the shooter was able to get onto such a close roof, despite people seeing him get up there. What really makes me curious is why the guy was such a bad shot.
Was it nerves, inexperience, or was the intent to make Trump into a martyr? I have to assume he probably was hoping for “suicide by cop”, and if your going to end things what do you have to lose but make everyone forget that he was just convicted and everyone now knows about his rapey, pedo past. Just makes you think… ya know?
20 year old kid with no military training shooting at a 6 inch wide target at 400 feet with no scope and only iron sights. Honestly the fact the he grazed the ear says to me it wasn’t that bad of a shot.
I agree, Incompetence is very likely the reason. Just a lot of odd details in this whole thing…
Is the ear graze even confirmed? TMZ was reporting it was fragment of teleprompter that shattered, cutting his ear.
Interesting, that’s the first I’ve heard this. I’ll be interested to see if that gets confirmed. Though I just saw a photo of the secret service piling on top of him and there’s two intact teleprompters astride the podium.
Yeah that’s why I can’t say it with confidence, only that I had heard it alleged
inexperienced. head shots are not what professionals go for… that’s only if you want to show off. also there are reports Trump moved his head right before it happened and that could have saved his life. Yet another reason you don’t go for the head.
Always aim for the crotch, it would have been way funnier to clip it.
But then you’re shooting a probably full diaper depending on how long it had been since he’d been changed.
Imagine having like 10 secret service guys shove his face into the spilled diaper remnants.
According to Stormy Daniels, that’s a much smaller target
Thought the same, but maybe he was aiming center mass? Doesn’t take much of to be off at 300" with iron.
In any case, you’re right, he was certainly inexperienced.
At 300 inches I could hit him with a putting wedge.
He wears body armor now though
I think there was a photo showing a hit center mass, but people under the protection of secret service usually wear vests during campaign stops and rallys
I know the photo you are talking about and I had that same impression at first. That was a red hat that looked like blood on his torso, though.
We’ll need to wait on a full report to know on his accuracy. If only one shot was him hitting an ear going for the head at 100-150 yards is absolutely respectable accuracy. If 9 were him that’s quite poor accuracy.
Guess he didn’t hit Trump at all. It was shrapnel from a teleprompter reflector.
That hasn’t been confirmed I believe
I don’t understand how that’s possible? The teleprompter would presumably be in front of Trump but, his ear facing back was injured. Or am I missing something?
As someone else mentioned, this isn’t confirmed, it’s just what some law enforcement have claimed. However the teleprompter system has multiple reflectors off to each side so that the speaker can look side to side while tallking and still have their prompts. So it’s possible to have the glass blow back to one side of Trump. I am sure we will find out more in the coming days and weeks…
I see, thanks for the explanation.
I read someone on here say he didn’t have a scope on his AR. From that range with no scope, it’s surprising he actually did hit Trump at all.
News article claimed he was turned away from his high school rifle club for being a shit shot. Nerves probably played a role as well, seeing his he got domed seconds after opening fire.
I saw the posts yesterday about how he was not accepted at his high school club for being a “comically” bad shot, which explains why this was so bad, but doesn’t explain how it was so good as the latest reports are saying he only missed Trump because he turned his head the moment he pulled the trigger.
What’s also odd is why he chose to use a gun to begin with, especially one without a scope. I’ve also read he has some kind of explosive devices in his car.
At the end of the day he seems to be painted as just another young white outcast male who dealt with bullying and social rejection, like most of the other mass shooters.
The only missing piece now seems to be motive. Guess the dude has been confirmed by multiple sources to be far right conservative. Why would he try to assassinate Trump?
In that type of situation, he would have known he wasn’t getting out alive. Did he fire only 1 shot? Also Crooks shooting a crook is just too good. Wtf timeline are we actually in?
Off by 2 inches, at a 150 yards, with iron sights, from a semi auto rifle, is not a bad shot. That would actually be an impressive shot at the shooting range. But you know what they say, “close only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades”.
The best explanation for how he got there I’ve heard comes from Robert Evans in the podcast It Could Happen Here, and it’s the fact that there were a lot of different snipers on roofs from various organisations and normalcy bias ensured that everyone thought he was somebody else’s and just figured everything was fine.