Is this Bernie Sanders?
I think it’s funny the Americans consider him so far left when he’d be centre left almost anywhere else.
Unless by “everywhere” you mean Europe you might consider that MUCH of the world is more authoritarian than the USA and would, by the anarchy/liberalism vs conservatism binary, be further to the right than America currently is.
Remember a ton of countries are not politically free in any real fashion. For example Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and DPRK are all to the right of the USA and especially Sander’s views.
True, but “we suck less than North Korea” isn’t really something to brag about
it’s funny the Americans consider him so far left
Remember a ton of countries are not politically free in any real fashion. For example Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and DPRK
Sure, the US is more open than literally the least open governments in the world.
I love how often defending the US is basically just saying “yeah but it’s not that bad compared to Sudan.”
almost anywhere else.
Western Europe is tiny compared to the rest of the world.
Hey Blamemeta!
Didn’t you get banned from a couple subs today for being uncivil and misinformation?
Do you honestly respect internet moderators? Do you think them unbiased?
I’ve seen your content and saw what you put up with your lemmy.world account.
I don’t feel that they are wrong but I’m biased as well as everyone is.
Well thanks. I appreciate you actually trying to see it from others point of view.
Almost anywhere else is still a really Eurocentric and ignorant claim. The USA is to the left of the majority of countries on earth unless you are using the EUROPEAN economic binary which does not fit MOST of the world.
Im not saying you’re Eurocentric but your claim absolutely is and it is far too common of a mistake for supposed progressives to make.
I’m not progressive, I’m canadian.
Isn’t one of Bernie’s main policy goals universal healthcare?
Isn’t that something most developed countries already have?
“Developed” countries is a racist phrase that splits the world into an arbitrary dichotomy and implies that
A) there is an end-point to civilizations and
B) the “other” (developing) countries are objectively worth less than the developed countries.
one of bernies main policies goals universal Healthcare
Certainly his most popular one but far from the only one.
See also:
cannabis and other drug legalization
free 4 year tuition
afforsable housing reform (this should be a big one for you in Canada)
UBI
100% Renewable energy
free childcare
abolish ICE and reform America’s immigration policies to welcome immigrants
Most of these policies would place Bernie Sanders as a far left Democrat across the Western world
“Developed” countries is a racist phrase that splits the world into an arbitrary dichotomy and implies that
It has nothing to do with race. There are hundreds of other countries in the world, comprised of varied races, and thousands of ethnicities within those countries. If it’s anything it would be nationalistic, ethnocentric, or economic elitism.
I support ‘afforsable’ housing reform, I actually dedicate a lot of my time to that.
Between that and helping send supplies to Ukraine it take most of my available time and disposable income.
Would you classify me as far-right?
I support ‘afforsable’ housing reform
Haha, throwing rocks at typing mistakes is fun.
Between that and helping send supplies to Ukraine it take most of my available time
‘take’ vs ‘takes’ ooof, you’re in a glass house and throwing rocks. You know what they say about that.
Most of the world, is not progressive. You did back pedal to only ‘developed’ worlds as if theyre the only ones that matter, but it doesn’t correct your initial claim. And then to simply fall to ad hominem against the other commenter is just silly.
You should have just stopped responding after your mistake was pointed out. Or took the high road and admitted the mistake.
Why would I classify you as far right? I’m saying that Bernie Sanders is definitely extreme far left globally and certainly not just “center left” when compared to plenty of other western leaders
That’s using that Euro binary.
The Euro binary only makes sense when liberal democracy is the default. That is not true in Africa or Asia which is factually most of the world.
Are you going by population, landmass or GDP?
China, Russia, and India make up all three
I bet Bernie, in the context of a more European style government would move himself further left. He seems to be pragmatic enough. I think he wants the best and will work towards moving us in that direction. I mean I am farther of left Bernie then Bernie is of most politicians but I still love and respect the man ❤️
Holy shit, thank you for being reasonable in this thread!
Yeah, Marie Le Pen and Richie Sunak are super far to Sanders’s left. Didn’t the far right just make historic gains in the Bundestag?
Le Pen is “widely described as far right”
Yeah, that was the point, it’s sarcasm. The person they are responding to is a moron.
Ah I see it, thanks
It was further right ninety years ago.
Is this Bernie Sanders?
I thought it was Murray Rothbard
Pretty much the same thing.
I’m pretty hard just looking at it.
Why does this guy look like he drives a white panel van in the 90s