@ashton1593@lemmy.sdf.org is spreading a disinfo campaign trying to rebrand horrible ideas as “not nazi.” I don’t know where else to warn people about this. We are pushing for an instance ban, but the admin at SDF tends to be slow to reach.

Edit: Look at the modlog. I beg of any instance admin that sees the ban and removal reasons alone, including a ban reason of “tranny” , I hope to hell they break your instance rules. You should instance ban this moron to keep the spread down.

Edit 2: It has been more than a day now with not even a “We will look into it.” kind of reply from the admin. It may be time to look into defederation. We are effectively abandoned.

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    • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
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      We banned him a few hours ago. In the future, please at least navigate to the major servers and check their modlogs before pinging the admins.

      Admins usually notify other admins fairly quickly about stuff like this. But in this case the other admins (myself) aren’t going to know if the user had already banned by one of our colleagues, so we end up having to check multiple times.

      It’s all good though, I appreciate your urgency.

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      Thank you for bringing it to our attention, already banned from Lemmy.world, will communicate with the other admins to see if more action is warranted.

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      Hijacking this useful ping to say that I absolutely would not hold a grudge over defederation due to this. We can’t get in touch with the admin. They are likely asleep. Please remember, though, that aside from this BS, it is just a quiet nerdy instance full of Unix lovers.

      Edit: autocorrect typos

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        Me neither. If the mods don’t respond to or address this issue by tomorrow I will begin advocating defederation from lemmy.sdf.org because if they aren’t willing or able to moderate hate speech, then they aren’t a safe instance to be on or be around.

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          Yeah, seems like they need a spare emergency admin or two in different time zones. Hell, every instance that doesn’t require approval to create communities needs those, imo

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            Most instances with a larger userbase really need to have a 24 hour team, “mods are asleep” should never happen on a server with a large userbase. The disruptions that can cause in cases like this are unacceptable.

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            Yeah it definitely is. They should be way more attentive when it comes to moderation, as well as maintenance of their services. I still remember having to beg them to update from 0.19.2 to 0.19.3 because the instance was broken and not federating (couldn’t even log in) it was so difficult to get them to do that. They did do it but it shouldn’t have been anywhere near that hard.

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      Contact the admins at dubvee.org they have a system of cross instance banning and tracking down to an art form. That’s assuming you can contact them if you are not banned.

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        I didn’t think to reach out to them since they’re a smaller instance, they likely don’t even see this whole thing happening. This is more an issue for the bigger admins since they’re the ones who will ultimately stop the spread. So I didn’t really want to bother them with something that they probably can’t even see.

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        Nope, I looked on lemmy.sdf.org and it does not appear they have. Nazi shit is still there. So since it’s been a day without any response I think it’s time we started defederating from lemmy.sdf.org at least until we get updates on the situation. After all this idiot could have more sockpupets there we don’t know about.

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      why didn’t you tag anyone from the instances you call the “tankie triad”?

      Saw that troll, banned his community, and him ages ago

      There is a reason that nazi trolls try to conflate communism with fascism and it is because those that you insult with “tankie” are the first and last line against nazi infiltration. So consider the consequences of your and those who think like you brigading the lemmyverse with anti-communist propaganda.

      edit: The above is something to consider when “Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.”

      So by limiting yourself to state/company sponsored disinformation you are stating your acceptance of individual level misinformation, like the user this post is referring to.

      Dismissing a person based on an opinion you have reached by consuming anti-communist misinformation is a clearer display of “disinformation” than any of the nebulous claims of “state-sponsered” astroturfing on lemmy.

      This is the same person who was a part of wolfballs, rammy, explodingheads, and now sdf. Yet all the users that complain about “tankie triad” are silent on the people that have proven through actions they have ill-intent for the lemmy-verse. Whereas lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and hexbear.net have contributed to the project materially.

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          As an instance admin I replied to a comment pinging instance admins to ask why me and other common instances were not asked.

          The user being discussed is intentionally engaging in disinformation on the fediverse by conflating communism and fascism.

          So it is relevant to me both as a lemmy admin and as a communist.

          Thank you for your very important contribution, I await your apology for the disinformation you spread across the lemmy-verse.

          Are you aware of Martin Niemöller’s quote? Consider this when you wonder why Nazis work to spread this disinformation regarding those that stand against them first.

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            As an instance admin I replied to a comment pinging instance admins to ask why me and other common instances were not asked.

            He was only pinging the important ones.

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              Oh my god, I just realized I didn’t ping ani.social either. It’s almost like I just pinged a handful of instances’ admin teams and didn’t ping all instances out there. This idea that CARCOSA has that I am deliberately omitting instances from my pings for nefarious reasons is very stupid indeed. They’re just looking for reasons to flip out at me and others and just start drama in general. 🙄

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                @CARCOSA@hexbear.net You should really reconsider your understanding of me as a person. You clearly don’t understand me or what I stand for if you’re willing to fling such accusations at me because I didn’t include all instances in my pings 🙄

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        What the hell? Why are you making random unfounded bad faith accusations towards me. I pinged the ones that came to mind, mainly the ones I know and also are admins of the ones I’m part of.

        In case you’re wondering the reason I didn’t ping hexbear or lemmy.ml is the same reason I didn’t ping literally any others than the ones listed. They didn’t cross my mind when I was thinking of teams to ping.

        You really need to work on not inferring bad faith in others’ actions and pouncing on them preemptively. It makes it seem that your actions are in and of themselves in bad faith.

        CC: @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com