Thereā€™s definitely some additional nuance (like a pronouns in bio/username situation) but this should cover the broad needs of anyone who is approaching this with good faith.

  • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Some non binary people use the pronoun ā€œtheyā€ in arabic, but unlike english it is exclusively meant for plural. And in arabic, verbs also are conjugated with amount, So you just canā€™t say ā€œThey ateā€ in a singular form, you have to explicitly mark ā€œateā€ in plural.

    Itā€™d be like saying ā€œthey ate(plural verb)ā€. It sounds very weird but thereā€™s not much better.

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      Thereā€™s a similar ā€” though very localised ā€” thing in English with ā€œthemself.ā€

      The singular form is used, but itā€™s far less common than the plural form ā€œthemselves.ā€ I often hear ā€œthemselvesā€ used to refer to one non-binary person and it always sounds weird.

      I guess we have to work with what we have. Is there an alternative in Arabic, like neopronouns?

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        Your comment made me try to think of one, and all I got was a headache.

        In arabic everything is gendered. Even the most simple pronoun ā€œIā€ changes the form of the sentence based on your gender (ie masculine: ā€œana juā€™anā€ fem: ā€œana juā€™anaā€

        Even the numbers and verbs are gendered. To try to add a new gender would be rethinking the entire language.

        But in Arabic masculine pronouns are considered normal. Even with feminine objects like the sun, you can use a masculine pronoun ā€œhua kabirā€ He (it) is big. So most enbies I know of just use masculine pronouns. There may be an alternative I donā€™t know of. Itā€™s an interesting yet complex topic.

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          Isnā€™t there a dual case (as in, specifically for two of something) in Arabic? Or is that primarily a formal thing?

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            There is. Itā€™s absolutely necessary, no exceptions at all. Itā€™s one of the only languages that really use it. It just adds to the complexity lol