Mozilla doesnāt sell data about you (in the way that most people think about āselling dataā), and we donāt buy data about you. We changed our language because some jurisdictions define āsellā more broadly than most people would usually understand that word. [ā¦]
The reason weāve stepped away from making blanket claims that āWe never sell your dataā is because, in some places, the LEGAL definition of āsale of dataā is broad and evolving. As an example, the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines āsaleā as the āselling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumerās personal information by [a] business to another business or a third partyā in exchange for āmonetaryā or āother valuable consideration.ā
Iām not trying to be a dick or anythingāthat comes naturallyābut yeah, Mozilla. Exchanging a good or service for money is called selling it. Since this has already been Mozillaās practice for a while and theyāre only now removing the promise because the definition of āsellā has apparently become so muddied, I donāt follow how Mozilla was describing it before now.
In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our Privacy Notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).
I think this is really the important part and Mozilla is burying the lede by focussing on the word āsellā. I think thereās an argument to be made that āyour dataā is no longer āyour dataā once it has been de-identified. I donāt agree with that argument, but I find it more convincing than this Clinton-esque āIt depends on what the meaning of the word āsellā isā stuff. Mozilla isnāt selling āyour dataā in the sense of your name and phone number, but they are selling āall data typesā, de-identified, anonymized, pseudonymized and/or in aggregate, about you.
I would still argue that that is your data and that by selling it, Mozilla is and has been selling your data. Itās nice that Mozilla isnāt blasting anybodyās actual personal biographical details to all their advertising partners, but itās misleading to say thatās the only way āselling dataā is understood.
These are some fair points. Thinking in the angle that they were kinda selling data for a while but just told us now bc of a new law; and are now muddying the wordās meaning and shading on the california law to save face; does make Mozilla look pretty bad. It makes them look worse if they were doing this for a while and told us just now.
I wonder if checking out of ads and data sending does stop all this from the userās end or if thatās just a suggestive tick box.
I think the part Iām unclear about is what definition of selling Mozilla was using before. Hereās the update they posted to clarify the changes: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/
Iām not trying to be a dick or anythingāthat comes naturallyābut yeah, Mozilla. Exchanging a good or service for money is called selling it. Since this has already been Mozillaās practice for a while and theyāre only now removing the promise because the definition of āsellā has apparently become so muddied, I donāt follow how Mozilla was describing it before now.
I think this is really the important part and Mozilla is burying the lede by focussing on the word āsellā. I think thereās an argument to be made that āyour dataā is no longer āyour dataā once it has been de-identified. I donāt agree with that argument, but I find it more convincing than this Clinton-esque āIt depends on what the meaning of the word āsellā isā stuff. Mozilla isnāt selling āyour dataā in the sense of your name and phone number, but they are selling āall data typesā, de-identified, anonymized, pseudonymized and/or in aggregate, about you.
I would still argue that that is your data and that by selling it, Mozilla is and has been selling your data. Itās nice that Mozilla isnāt blasting anybodyās actual personal biographical details to all their advertising partners, but itās misleading to say thatās the only way āselling dataā is understood.
These are some fair points. Thinking in the angle that they were kinda selling data for a while but just told us now bc of a new law; and are now muddying the wordās meaning and shading on the california law to save face; does make Mozilla look pretty bad. It makes them look worse if they were doing this for a while and told us just now.
I wonder if checking out of ads and data sending does stop all this from the userās end or if thatās just a suggestive tick box.