There’s drugnerd whispers on the internet that DXM (microdosed) can block or attenuate the development of tolerance to various ligands, particularly amphetamine.

Any DrugNerdz here who can explain the valudity of this conjecture or expand on it in any helpful way

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    I’ve taken my fair share of DXM. The last time I did it I was hanging out with this guy. We were looking for roll or acid or both. I told him that I could make him the most fucked up he’s ever been and it’s over the counter. He called me a liar and told me to prove it.

    We get back to my house and each eat 32 pills. That was 2 boxes of medicine. About three hours later. This full grown man approached me with the face of a child that had just witnessed all the horrors of WWI, and said Muhammad I’ve never been this fucked up before.

    I said “I told you so. I then told him that the last time I did this I swore I’d never do it again, but I had made a special concession just for him.

    We laid in my side yard in complete silence for what felt like an eternity. Staring at the stars. Only to look at a watch and realize that only 20 mins had passed.

    It took 2 days to get back to normal. He didn’t hang out with me very much after that. Also, those pills had a sugar coating. The same coating name brand advil have. To this day my body won’t let me swallow anything with that sugar coating on it. I tried to take some Advil, and gagged so hard I shot the pill into my sinuses.

    I know that doesn’t answer your question, but I wanted to share.

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      To this day my body won’t let me swallow anything with that sugar coating on it.

      Man, I feel like everyone that did a lot of robotripping all hit that point (pretty quickly) where they have to stop.

      Not because they want to get clean, not because they have a bad trip, but their body just draws a line in the sand that it’s not accepting anymore dxm…

      Never heard of it happening to a crackhead or alcoholic. But at some point everyone’s body just rebels against cough medicine.

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        Yep. Can confirm, I can’t even look at them anymore without feeling that bile rise.

        That said. I miss MXE. Since the UK banned it I haven’t found it anywhere.

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        It’s crazy how that happens. At first those sweet pills weren’t bad at all. But eventually it’s like my body associated that taste with what’s about to come and tried to preemptively sabotage me. That stuff is weird.

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          That’s why I stopped mixing the mushrooms with nice tasting stuff to mask it.

          I melted a pan full of chocolate once and suspended little diced shrooms in it. Hey nice right? Nope I couldn’t eat chocolate for a year afterward.

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      The time dilation is super real with DXM, it really is incredible in its temporal-perception-altering capabillity

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        Well, I blame the guy that taught me about it. He used to take a bunch and go to school like that. We kinda made fun of him for taking the stuff all the time.

        So, one night he asks if I want to spend the night, and I say sure. My curiosity got the better of me and I told him I’d like to try it. I said that it was my first time and what’s a good beginner dose. He said 32. I said that sounded like a lot. He said 32. I said ok and took it.

        At that point I had done acid several times. One time I did five hits of acid and snorted 3 fat lines (not bumps) of ketamine. I thought I had experienced wild. Up to that point I hadn’t experienced anything.

        The next morning that asshole had the audacity to ask me if I was going to church with he and his family. Man, fuck that dude!

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          One time I played a perfect game of pool while robotripping.

          I’m not that good a pool player, but we came across some guys playing pool and I ended up playing one of them, and I played like I was some kind of olympic gold medalist pool player.

          I could remember everything I’d ever learned about pool, and was able to apply it all perfectly somehow. I was making crazy shots like double and triple bank shots, I was jumping the ball over other balls, doing multilevel combos it was wild.

          Another time I discovered I could walk on my forearms. Like when a person walks on their hands except I had my whole forearms down on the floor like skis. That’s not something I can do. I can’t balance or stand on my hands or even do a cartwheel. But one day while robotripping I was like “heh what if I walked upside down” and I just did it!

          That’s the thing that blows my mind about DXM, that it can seemingly open up perfect execution of physical tasks.

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    I know DXM use and abuse is effective in preventing a strong career and stable life. That cough suppressant was actually an Air Force career suppressant for a dude I used to know.

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      I wouldn’t say its any absolute, it can play a role in mentally resetting you at the hyperdosage level. Almost like a “hard reset” like when you turn off your device or whatever

      Personally, I agree that it can be very dangerous as well both acutely and over chronic usage. We don’t know much about potential kidney issues like with ketamine or if there’s any other nasty health risks like Olney’s lesions etc.

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    I just wonder what NMDA-antagonism has to do with the prevention of tolerance development in response to drug-taking of various substances.

    Edit: its my vague recollection that it involved no more than 20-60mg of the hydrobromide, typically.

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    Everything I’ve read about avoiding amphetamine tolerance involves horrible stories of people fucked up for life