I realize this is not necessarily a valid question as the people are involved are likely the ones who can actually solve it, but I’m sure you have ideas and suggestions nontheless.
I realize this is not necessarily a valid question as the people are involved are likely the ones who can actually solve it, but I’m sure you have ideas and suggestions nontheless.
Give the Arabs back their land. Give Jews land somewhere in Europe or the U.S. since we’re all so supportive of them.
Surely then the Arabs will give it back to the French, whom they conquered it from at the end of the Crusades … but the French have to give it back to the Arabs … who have to give it back to the Greek Christians that they conquered it from … who have to give it back to the Romans … then the Jews again … then the Assyrians as representative descendants of the Babylonians (note: the Arabs have to give them back Iraq, too) … then the Jews again … then the Spanish, Lebanese, and Sardinians as representative descendants of the Sea Peoples (the original Palestinians) by way of the Carthaginians … then the Jews … then the Canaanites if anyone can find them … eventually it goes back to the Akkadians or something, right?
(Also, I think I left out the Turks [though they’ll be busy in Kazakhstan], the Persians, the Macedonian-Greeks, and a few others …)
Or we can draw a line at the very real point where Britain, in all their hubris, said, “Fuck all y’all Arabs, this land is for the Jews” shortly after WWII.
This is the part I don’t get. You can easily set aside the history from hundreds of years ago because the point you describe is such recent history that there are people still alive who remember when this period of shit started. There is no one alive to settle the dispute about when the area went from Canaan to Israel and who was right/wrong but there is a lot of documented knowledge about what happened when Britain got involved after WWI up through WWII.
Thats a complete arbitrary point in time. Why that one and not one hundred years earlier during the ottoman empire?
Yeah with piling up petty feudal claims I always see appeals to “history” to be intellectually disingenuous and a rather disgusting excuse to kill people. It’s basically revanshism, you know, what Hitler did and Putin’s doing. We haven’t learnt shit from fuck have we. Religion being another terrible excuse. So I agree with you. Can’t we just freeze all the borders and globalize at last? Why all the dumb separation over delusions such as culture, religions and nationalism? I guess pride and inertia won’t allow it.
What happens when a large proportion of the Jewish people currently in Israel refuse to leave?
They’re not actually. Its more like the enemy of my enemy sort of thing, thats the reason so many jews ended up in Israel in the first place because of the anti–semitism and discrimination, genocide, etc, you name it in western countries. Have you not heard about the rise of european and american nationalism in recent years. Both areas, especially europe, claim that they are at over capacity. All this rhetoric came about with the african and syrian refugee rise. The USA to this day does not have a reciprocal visa status for Israelis, they have to apply for a visa and maybe they get approved just to even transit in the USA. Such great friends are they? USA supports the war, but you will be hard pressed to find their support in other areas of basic life. The have partnership in the field of medicine as well, but Israel does a lot of the supplying in new tech and research. A lot of “american support” is rooted in evanglicalist christinanity, which means they only support israel if they stay in israel. They want all the jews to go to Israel, that is their support. How would they feel about them not in Israel? I’ve read a few accounts as how evangelicals have a mission to make jews move to israel by any means necessary even if that means making their lives hard or doing discrimination against them to get them to leave. They dont want them to be comfortable NOT in israel, nor are they so good with sharing, even amongst their own american people. The USA has one of the worst affordable and housing and homeless crisis in the world.
i vote florida. lets declare florida new Israel. keep all those nukes we paid for close to home.
Put them somewhere undesirable like south dakota.
I’ve heard that South Dakota is actually alright, it’s North Dakota that sucks.
Fun fact… “palestine” was south dakota to the arabs around it, which is why jews were able to quickly buy up and settle major portions of the land. not many people wanted it in the condition it was in. I know that people dispute this, but I’m still waiting to hear the proof of the fertile land and economic powerhouse it was that almost left it abandoned by the major powers of the time (ottomans) Realisticaly speaking though, south dakota is extremely desirable to Israelis given a scale of what they had in the 1800s to 1940s, for one trees and rain.