• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    37·
    8 hours ago

    As the ethnic cleansing intensifies, it’s going to be harder and harder to find victims for libs to laugh at.

    Disgusting fash-adjacent comm.

  • fodor@lemmy.zip
    411·
    23 hours ago

    Fake. Anyone who actually knows the process knows that there are almost zero illegals. Immigration violations are civil infractions. Like parking tickets, or not mowing your lawn.

  • Aljernon@lemmy.today
    631·
    1 day ago

    There was a Mexican immigrant at work from a more financially secure family who travelled back to Mexico for a visit right when the ICE problems were exploding; he couldn’t understand our surprise that we would risk it. “I’m not illegal, I have all my papers”. Bro, none of your white citizen coworkers think this has anything to do with immigration status, the crackdown is just about racism.

  • Zink@programming.dev
    682·
    1 day ago

    That last paragraph about ~“we voted maga … we want the illegals gone … never thought the leopards would victimize myyyyy immigrant” sounds so on-the-nose and oblivious that it makes it sound like a badly written fake.

    But as a white USian from a conservative family, and especially during this wonderful holiday time of year, I know in my heart that I am not-too-distantly related to people who are every bit that ignorant about the world.

    • tetris11@feddit.ukEnglish
      2·
      5 hours ago

      They were sold the idea that deporting unregistered workers would mean more jobs for registered workers. Essentially they voted for the one party promising jobs.

      Too bad it was all a lie

    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
      332·
      1 day ago

      Illegals and immigrants are different things. Its not fake its a person being honest about their situation and feelings.

      • Zink@programming.dev
        151·
        21 hours ago

        Yeah I know that. The error of conflating the two was not mine.

        The underlying point – and I’m going to explain it because it is often left unsaid on lemmy and serves as the basis for sarcasm – is that the motive for kicking all the “illegals” out of the country comes from a place of hate, ignorance, and fear rather than some kind of rule of law purity.

        That’s why it gets pointed out in an “I told you so” fashion when somebody in favor of short circuiting due process for “violent illegals” loses their legal immigrant spouse or gets their own US Citizen ass whisked away to another continent.

        If it were about the law, they wouldn’t want to circumvent the law to hurt the “others” faster.

        aside: it sucks that every time I use an em dash in a comment it makes me wonder if people will think I use some LLM crap to compose internet comments for 17 people to read, lol

        • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
          419·
          20 hours ago

          Possibly. There are problems caused by illegal immigration, as well as how America abuses legal immigrants. Just because I live in a place where multiculturalism is seen as a benefit to the community, doesnt mean everyone does.

          I really dont think anyone expected how the trump admin is treating immigrants, but most right wing people won’t be exposed to any media that clues them in. Thats why we see people only realize after being personally affected.

          All that said, when someone changes their mind from a worse position to a better one, we should be cheering them on, not insulting and laughing at them.

          • fodor@lemmy.zip
            5·
            12 hours ago

            There is almost no illegal immigration in the US because immigration is not a criminal offense. Don’t get to try to sound serious and then lie about the law. Immigration violations are civil infractions, like parking tickets.

            • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
              22·
              10 hours ago

              You know I was referring to entering the country without the proper process. Sort of a weak gotcha there.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
            7·
            15 hours ago

            There are problems caused by illegal immigration

            Nope, none. There are problems caused by authoritarian and heavy-handed immigration law (this is what the H1B and exploited farm workers stuff falls under), but illegal immigration itself? Absolutely not. There’s a reason the first two laws restricting immigration to the US were the Page Act and the Chinese Exclusion Act, both targeting East Asians specifically; this shit has always been about racism.

            I really dont think anyone expected how the trump admin is treating immigrants,

            Yeah no, plenty of people did. He literally promised to deport millions of them.

            • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
              13·
              10 hours ago

              Well, maybe the fact you can’t see how other people have different lives and live under different systems, makes it hard for you to see other perspectives.

              • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
                21·
                9 hours ago

                I’m perfectly willing to see other perspectives when they’re not bullshit. It just happens that this particular perspective is bullshit. In the words of many a rightwinger, facts don’t care about your feelings. Or mine, or anybody’s. If you want more proof, Democrats, which tend to be city dwellers and therefore more likely to interact with immigrants, are overwhelmingly pro-immigration.

                • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
                  11·
                  5 hours ago

                  Yes, people who are around immigrants and find a social benefit tend to promote immigration, while those who are around immigrants and see a social detriment will be against immigration.

                  Not sure what point you are making though.

          • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
            8·
            20 hours ago

            I don’t really think that such a person really learned the lesson. They’re only seeking individual exception, not criticizing the policy, let alone reflecting on their other beliefs or the other policies of their leader.

            • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
              19·
              20 hours ago

              Its a step in the right direction I’d like to think, but of course I’m being hopeful as I won’t know what happens.

                • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
                  12·
                  10 hours ago

                  Personal experience can be very powerful, and I dont believe its less meaningful because they didnt notice until they were affected. We have all had this happen to us to some degree, I’m not going to hold it against someone.

                  At the very least this will change how they think about immigration in the states when it comes up in conversation.

          • Zink@programming.dev
            5·
            19 hours ago

            I really dont think anyone expected how the trump admin is treating immigrants,

            Considering the audience on this platform, that hyperbolic statement is erring in the wrong direction. Not only do I bet that a majority of people reading this expected it, but I half expect to see somebody else reply “EVERYBODY expected this, you son of an honorable dame” or something like that.

            but most right wing people won’t be exposed to any media that clues them in.

            I do believe that audience would have plenty of genuine “nobody expected this” reactions. Are you a recovering conservative yourself? I grew up in that world. Been there, friend.

            • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
              33·
              10 hours ago

              I’m not a recovering conservative but I have a lot of compassion and empathy for that group. At a certain point I realized all the anti-conservative talk here was just as bigoted as people claim conservatives are.

              I really don’t like seeing posts where someone is vulnerable and honest about their life, and the responses on here are hateful and in some cases violent.

              I don’t understand how the people on here posting don’t realize they are part of the problem.

      • alternategait@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        1 day ago

        It feels pretty disingenuous to ignore that the “legal” pathway to immigration is a matter of years and thousands of dollars; which pretty much always blocks asylum seekers. Now it’s also a matter of the luck to not be born into the “wrong” countries.

        OOP’s wife will be illegal the moment she steps foot in this country, and OOP and I can agree that’s ridiculous. I just extend the same to lots and lots of other people.

  • Formfiller@lemmy.world
    164·
    1 day ago

    You voted for a man with 34 felony convictions, found to be civilly liable for rape, whose best friends were human trafficking pedofiles and called for an insurrection live on TV because you thought he would follow the law?

    • Mirshe@lemmy.world
      26·
      1 day ago

      I might go so far as to say Trump was also probably a trafficker. I think that’s the reason he’s still scrambling to scrub everything from the Epstein files, because he knows he’s dead meat on the world stage otherwise. I’m willing to chalk up the whole “restarting child separation” thing in 2016 up to racism, but then for ICE/CBP to just brazenly state “we have no idea where they went” reeks of “we just have this black van and some of the kids go in there, and some of the kids go to foster homes.”

      • Formfiller@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 day ago

        I just mentioned what was crystal clear before the election for even the most mouth breathing faux addict

    • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      28·
      1 day ago

      I 100% believe that a big reason they’re so adamant about the masks is because they pulled from a bunch of those white supremacist militias to pad out their numbers. Illegal to them is absolutely just “not white enough” or “not speaking enough English” for them.

      • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        11 hours ago

        nah they’d deport white immigrants (me), ethnic native Americans, melanated American-born citizens and even white Christian Americans born in California or New York who vote democrat in a heartbeat.

        • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          1·
          8 hours ago

          They absolutely would if they could. But again, this woman at the time was basically in Chudwife camo. She’s Lily White, Midwestern, and at the time was dressed like a Suburban Karen. Hairstyle included because we didn’t have the time to keep up the undercut she usually keeps that makes her look more like a Butch Lesbian than a Suburban Karen.

          So unless you looked at her and were brain broken by transvestigation like sometimes happens when she goes into public restrooms there’s no way you’d look at her and think “She votes Democrat” even where we live. Plus if they were gonna try that song and dance they would have pulled her over any time while she was trying to evade them. Or even just grabbing her immediately outside of the blood draw clinic they were waiting outside of and followed her as she left.

          Which leads me to believe that they were looking for a secluded area to pull her over and threaten to arrest her unless they get something out of it.

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
        7·
        22 hours ago

        And also because they know they will be held accountable for their crimes. Document anything and everything you see in person.

        • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          9·
          21 hours ago

          Yeah, all we personally have is some contemporaneous notes for the time an ICE vehicle stalked my partner as she left a blood draw appointment. She tried to lose them for a few blocks then took them through a Walgreens drive thru to pick up meds hoping they were waiting to try anything until she was more isolated. Luckily the one we were at has a high traffic street it lets out onto so she lost them coming out of the drive thru. But like, she is Lily White Midwestern and we live in Western NY. Not a chance they “thought she was illegal” they were 1,000% on some nefarious shit.

          Unfortunately we found out from that incident our dash cam was malfunctioning, so no video evidence of them stalking her on our end. I’m sure several of the pharmacists remember her little “Fuck ICE” song though lmao. We have since replaced our dash cam and invested in some cameras for our house so we can see if they come around trying to harass any of our refugee (or with the way this bigoted regime has been heading any of our Puerto Rican) neighbors.

    • Ech@lemmy.ca
      7·
      23 hours ago

      It’s a mistake to say this is because of lack of intelligence rather than targeted malice.

    • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      674·
      1 day ago

      Edit: Sorry y’all, I’ve been informed I have apparently committed the gave sin of engaging in the Wrong Kind of Fun for this Community. Apparently my shitpost comment is a “selfawarewolves” and not a “leopardsatemyface” and as such is a grave transgression. I can only hope my execution is swift and merciful lmao. o7 Godspeed comrades.

      What do you mean 99.9999% of the “illegals” aren’t actually viscous criminals and it’s all just… random dudes like my neighbor Josue from Church? But he’s One of the Good Ones™ dagnabbit! I had wanted all them damned “Trendy R Agua” guys Joe Brandon flooded the country with to steal the election for the Demon Rats and bankrupt my SNAP and Medicare gone.

      – That guy, probably

      They can never explain to me how they actually steal the election when these people can’t vote and nobody has ever proven they do or have. Never mind the fact that these people pay into these programs without being able to actually receive them statutorily most everywhere. Or that Trump is actively gutting them.

      • tburkhol@lemmy.world
        14·
        1 day ago

        Edit: Sorry y’all, I’ve been informed I have apparently committed the gave sin of engaging in the Wrong Kind of Fun for this Community.

        Yeah, you should ignore that dude. Seems to have made a hobby of telling people “That’s not LAMF” and collecting downvotes.

        I, for one, thought “Trendy R aqua” was great. The Mexican branch of Hydro Homies.

        • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          5·
          1 day ago

          Yeah it took me a few replies deep before I finally clicked their profile and wow. I have multiple autistic children, my partner is autistic, all 4 of them are incredibly literal in their interpretations of language, and even they aren’t anywhere near this particular about the meanings of words.

      • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
        2013·
        1 day ago

        viscous criminals

        That’d probably make them easy to catch.

        Also your comment makes no sense, because his wife isn’t ‘one of the good ones’, she’s not an illegal immigrant at all.

        • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          191·
          1 day ago

          Methinks you might be reading too deeply into a shitpost about the politically incoherent tendencies of Trump voters. I wasn’t trying to accurately represent that guy’s arguments. I was making fun of him for missing an entirely predictable consequence is his actions.

          • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
            516·
            1 day ago

            I’m not ‘reading too deeply’, I’m just actually reading, and know what LAMF means.

            a shitpost about the politically incoherent tendencies of Trump voters

            Which didn’t fit the situation in the OP at all, so it’s less of a ‘shitpost’ and more of a handful of Stereotype Spaghetti thrown at a wall.

            making fun of him for missing an entirely predictable consequence is his actions.

            That’s called ‘selfawarewolves’, different thing.

            • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              152·
              1 day ago

              Yeesh I didn’t realize every reply to every comment had to perfectly adhere to the topic and none were allowed to stray in any way into the realm of general mockery.

              I’ll be sure to remember that in the future the next time I think about adding something I think might be remotely humorous to a discussion, and just not! Thanks for clearing that up! Didn’t know you were the arbiter of what was allowed to be commented. Won’t happen again boss.👍

              • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
                116·
                1 day ago

                Yeesh I didn’t realize I had to say things that made sense for people to not point out that they don’t

                If you can’t handle being told you’re not making sense, don’t post nonsense? Just a suggestion.

                Also, ‘sassy sarcasm’ makes you sound like a bratty middle-school ‘mean girl’, so if you don’t want to come across that way, I’d suggest avoiding that as well.

    • MBech@feddit.dk
      16·
      1 day ago

      Idk, but maybe some of those people yelling “don’t trust them, they’re all racist pieces of shit” had some kind of point.