• TAG@lemmy.world
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      This was already widely known. If a Waymo taxi does not know what to do, it stops in the middle of the road and calls a support center where a human plots a route for it. The tech media has been reporting on it for years. The only fact in that article that I have not heard is that they are outsourcing the jobs to the Philippines.

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      3 months ago

      It’s all part of the grift of AI and autonomous robots. Cute synchronized dancing videos but I have yet to see one thread a bolt into a nut.

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        That’s a bit of a weird way to word it. Most assembly lines (even at a cheese factory I used to do support for) do things like packaging products, installing nuts, welding panels in auto factories, etc- those robots are real and incredibly good at their SPECIFIC roles, but those aren’t the kinds of “robots” we’re talking about here. They are the opposite of autonomous- as if you stand in the way of one of these they’ll just freak out and emergency stop, or fail to and kill you. :)

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          The grift is that autonomous biped robots will replace skilled, or even unskilled labor in factories. Show me one tool task not confined in XYZ space carried out by these toys.

          No, we get dancing and jumping around.

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      You are being misleading, it’s been a known fact that they are remotely piloted sometimes but the majority of the time the are autonomous, and they are safer than normal drivers in general.

      Literally the first sentence on your link “Remote drivers intervene in unusual situations”

      Unusual usually means not common.

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      The fact that people who aren’t licensed to drive in the US are driving Waymos is so fucking absurd. The first time one of those remote drivers kills someone is probably going to result in Waymo’s whole business model to collapse from court fees alone.

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        We can dream. They will probably pay a fee and call it a day, treating it as the price of doing business.

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          That’s the thing - they are not driving them, they’re telling the cars where to go to get out of the situation. It’s not great, but it’s tired seeing the hype of “FERR’N PEOPLE DRIVIN’ CARS ON OUR ROADS”.

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          actually driving, as in manually taking control of the vehicle by remote.

          Waymo’s chief safety officer, Mauricio Peña, recently noted that when the company’s robotaxis encounter unusual situations, they may request real-time input from a remote response agent

          I don’t know how else to translate “real-time input”.

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            From the same article:

            Waymo says its remote fleet response agents do not directly operate vehicle controls, but instead provide real-time contextual information that the autonomous system uses while remaining in control of the vehicle.

            So nobody is taking over and directly piloting the car. It’s probably a good thing to have the car double-check with someone if something strange or unpredictable happens.

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      There’s too much money to be made getting people onto a subscription model for transport. It will 100% happen, maybe just not on the timeline they would want you to believe.

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        Happened forever ago. It was (and is) called a train. Self driving cars will not succeed.

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          A train cannot run directly to your house. Driverless cars 100% will happen, eventually road taxes will force manual drivers off the road. Too much money to be made from forcing people onto subscriptions and also cutting the costs on delivery drivers for it not to happen.

          If you look at how far along the tech is already, why kid yourself that it’s not going to continue to improve and eventually be better than a human driver.