It’s lemmygrad, we’re the spectre. I’d bet at least half of the other instances out there block us, there’s only like 300 dedicated users on this instance, and they still can’t stop complaining about lemmygrad/tankies
It’s lemmygrad, we’re the spectre. I’d bet at least half of the other instances out there block us, there’s only like 300 dedicated users on this instance, and they still can’t stop complaining about lemmygrad/tankies
Sure, this instance defines itself as pro-Marxism/pro-socialism, and there is a serious conversation to be had about the pros and cons of different systems of economy. I struggle to understand, however, why people on this instance are so pro-Russia today, where Russia now is so blatantly a capitalist kleptocracy. This undermines any perception that people on this instance are approaching this in good faith, and gives the impression lemmygrad is the product of Russian troll farms.
As to why this small instance gathers so much attention within Lemmy, it keeps showing up in my “All” feed, that probably has something to do with it 👾
because it’s a bad faith argument that we’re “pro-Russia”, we are anti-Nato. Sometimes we’re sloppy with our language in here because we expect other comrades to engage with us in good faith and not assume that we are pro Russian. The United States is the great Satan, and any country that opposes it is our temporary ally.
You, just like every other tourist from afar, miss the point of "critical support". Deliberate emphasis on the ‘critical’. We do not uphold the kleptocracy. We do not uphold Putin. We do not uphold the federation. But right now, at the same time, Russia is one of like… The three or four world powers currently spitting in the Evil Empire’s eye. That, we critically support, in that we can support one action while holding critique bordering on condemnation for everything else they do.
We are not “Pro-Russia”, this is a bad faith label that is used to smear us. We SUPPORT Russia in the current conflict against Nato and the west. Which is what any principled anti-imperialist would do.
So just to wrap my head around this, the anti-imperialists are the ones who have invaded a sovereign country twice in 8 years?
Ukraine serves the imperialists and was being used to house Statesian weaponry and military. That alone would justify removing them as NATO and the western imperialists represent an existential threat to both Russia and the international working class.
Ukraine is fighting an existential war against a country that NATO was formed to defend against. Are you seriously suggesting that not defending your territory from a very literal and an extensively documented attempt at genocide is the only valid option in your world view? Because holy fuck guy.
NATO was created to defend imperialist interests in impoverished nations. As I said, read fucking Lenin before you spew obviously unresearched statements about the war.
Ah yes those imperialist interests in Latvia, Estonia and North Macedonia. I’m not reading Lenin dude. After an hour with you lot I’m worried it’ll turn me into a fucking moron lol
You say that as if you aren’t already.
>implying Kyiv wasn’t committing its very own genocide from 2014 onward
Lmao “genocide” I am begging liberals to realize that words mean things.
The Russian Federation did intervene in Ukraine’s attempted genocide of ethnic russians in the Donbas though, which makes your cute little strawman up there particularly ironic
The anti imperialists are the ones preventing the expansion of the organization that attacked Iraq, took part in several conflicts in former Yugoslavia, invaded Afghanistan, attacked Iraq again and then Libya.
All while expanding to 15 countries in the last 30 years. That is the imperialism we are opposing.
So the anti-imperialists are the ones who invaded twice and annexed Chechnya, rolled tanks into Georgia, invaded Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea in a blatant land grab, levelled Syrian cities (which is ongoing btw) and used chemical weapons on civilians, aggressively pursued Russian interests in Mali, Libya and Sudan with the Wagner group, and started a full scale invasion of Ukraine which is ongoing… and they’re the good guys?
It’s wild that you can look at them and say yeah, russia are the good guys in this whole thing lol. There’s a reason why countries want to be in NATO in 2023 and that reason is Russia.
Read Lenin FFS. It would prevent you from spewing such obvious falsehoods about the nature of imperialism.
You did not just compare Russia preventing a Jihadist breakaway state from forming in their country to the US destroying Iraq for made up reasons and creating the catalyst for all modern Islamist terrorism, Jesus fucking Christ.
Just casually sweeping the soviet invasion of Afghanistan under the rug 👏
More ahistorical nonsense.
They asked the Soviets to help them…kinda like how the people of the Donbass also asked Russia to help them.
And libs are fuming about it all the same. Almost like their dedication to objectivity and human rights is a lie and they just stan US empire no matter what.
🗣️ IMPERIALISM DOESNT MEAN “ONE COUNTRY INVADES ANOTHER PLEASE GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD”
Anti-imperialists that support the country trying to revive their imperial past.
That’s the whole problem. In western circles, it’s socially unacceptable to say one word in favour of Russia. If you do, you’re branded as succumbing to russian propaganda or a bot. Because nobody reasonable would support Russia.
There was an article posted here recently that was written by one of you. He served as the assistant general secretary for the UN. Not a troll, educated, and has no reason to support Russia (just like we don’t). Also “escaped East Germany”. He wrote this:
https://www.meer.com/en/74782-will-the-ukraine-war-be-the-undoing-for-the-european-union
It’s something that could well have been written by people here, aside from the swipes at the Soviet Union. I strongly suggest you check it out, if you actually wish to understand our viewpoint. It was written with liberals in mind as the target audience.
Nobody is pro-Putin. We are anti-NATO. That’s a very different thing.