Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youāll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy April Foolās in advance.)
Australian chemist and videographer Explosions & Fire argues convincingly that the ongoing recent radioactive-boy-scout scandal should not result in prosecution. For context, a 24-year-old man ordered small samples of radioactive isotopes from the USA, Australia failed to intercept it at the border, and they are prosecuting him in order to avoid embarrassment over incompetence. I donāt have a choice sneer; E&F is unwaveringly energized over the topic of radioactive isotopes and injustice, and the whole thing is worth watching.
a good vibe coding sneer found in the wild
AI Overturns Centuries of Forensic Fingerprinting Practice?
Published in Scienceā¦ Advances
Probably a fair bit to sneer at in the actual study that Iām missing, and the article I first found it in is peak AI Hype. (Big Forensics is trying to keep you from knowing the Truth as found by an undergrad with a GPU) But the part that I found most concerning is that even the whole paper doesnāt appear to break down their 77% accuracy index and provide the specific result ratios that go into it. In a field where each false positive represents a step on the road to innocent people being convicted of major crimes I would really like to know that number specifically.
At a <30s glance, Iām going to guess the model is finding correlations in the artefacts of fingerprint taking, digitalisation, presentation and so on instead of fingerprints proper, like every damn time this sort of story comes up.
with a whole 2 Ts!
taking bets on whether thatās 2 terminators or whether itās the amount of USD they want to burn to make it into a machine god
Llama 4 Maverick offers a best-in-class performance to cost ratio with an experimental chat version scoring ELO of 1417 on LMArena.
Everything on that page is silly nonsense, but this takes the cake. An Elo rating for chitchat!!!
I bet I could win a conversation against any LLM ant day.
coming up soon: tacticool arena prompt fights, where they get ranked on style and guile
(as was said on whose line is it anyway: āwhere everything is made up and the points donāt matterā)
Neither, actually. They were testing it by asking how many "T"s appeared in āLlama Fourā and it kept saying ā2ā so they decided to roll with it.
tip from a discord:
Iāve been doing some micro tasking to train LLMās the last few months to earn some extra cash, the last month itās all dried up, no tasks available. I canāt help thinking that is a sign of a bubble deflating.
Please please please
I knew the HN reaction to Marine Le Pen being banned from being elected to public office would be unhinged, but weirdly I did not have āgood, sheās a woman and weak so now a strong man can lead RN to glorious victoryā on my bingo card. More fool me, misogyny is always on the card.
Why yes, Iām sure 29 year old Jordan āEl italiano 93ā Bardella, who 10 years ago was uploading Call of Duty videos to youtube, is a much stronger candidate.
Thereās a comment in there about how well it reflects on the British system that Bobby Sands was allowed to stand as an MP for Sinn FĆ©in despite being an IRA member and a prisoner. This ignores that a) Sinn FĆ©in policy was and is not to take seats in the British parliament, so he wouldnāt have been voting or sitting on any committees, and b) Bobby Sands died in prison on hunger strike.
Misogyny is the free square, easy to forget
Today on the orange site, an AI bro is trying to reason through why people think heās weird for not disclosing his politics to people heās trying to be friendly with. Previously, he published a short guide on how to talk about politics, which ā again, very weird, no possible explanation for this ā nobody has adopted. Donāt worry, heās well-read:
So far Iāve only read Harry Potter and The Methods of Rationality, but can say it is an excellent place to start.
The thread is mostly centered around one or two pearl-clutching conservatives who donāt want their beliefs examined:
I find it astonishing that anyone would ask, [āwho did you vote for?ā] ā¦ In my social circle, anyway, the taboo on this question is very strong.
To which the top reply is my choice sneer:
In my friend group itās clear as day: either you voted to kill and deport other people in the friend group or you didnāt. Pretty obvious the group would like to know if youāre secretly interested in their demise.
Wow, farriers are going crazy with these modern horseshoe designs!
image transcription
Above: a single axis scatter plot. The ends of the axis are labeled āLeftā and āRightā. Data points are distributed similarly to normal distribution, the center being more concentrated than the extremes. Caption: āWhat people think the political spectrum is vs What it actually isā.
Below: A two-dimensional scatter plot. The ends of the horizontal axis are labeled āLeftā and āRightā and the vertical axis is labeled āIndependent Thoughtā at the top and āGroupthinkā at the bottom. The data points are evenly distributed inside a bell curve shape, with the peak of the hump at Independent Thought and between Left and Right, and the wide bottom of the bell spanning the whole Left-Right axis at maximum Groupthink.
Data points near the top of the bell (Independent-Center) labeled āāUn-intentional moderatesā (from Paul Grahamās The Two Kinds of Moderate)ā. [Original image uses double quotes around the term Un-intentional moderates and single quotes around the title of Paul Grahamās shitpost.]
Data points at the bottom center of the bell (Groupthink-Center) labeled āIntentional moderatesā.
In the bottom corner a watermark crediting the image to ā@shw1nmā.
I love the implication that being an independent thinker means agreeing with both the majority and other independent thinkers.
Hi, Iām an unimtentional moderate centrist! I donāt have an ideology, only views! My overton window is a peephole! Kamala is a far leftist! Trump is orange! People should stop treating politics like team sports and join the non team sports tribe like me! Political correctness gone mad! Let me tell you about Chestertonās fence! Everyoneās sheeple except my flock! Say it with me: Iām an independent thinker!
Iām just glad all my friends are such smart rational independent thinkers that weāve all independently come to the same conclusion that the status quo is perfect!
Did they try to add a bell curve in a place where it shouldnāt be te last image? Im fascinated by how little sense it makes, and by how bad the adding a groupthink axis is.
Finally, someone has solved the political compass. No-one will ever come up with a new political spectrum again. Soon we will have world peace
This is only the beginning. Check these out!
Chart 1
Left edge of the image labeled āProgressivismā, right edge labeled āLibertarianismā.
Above: A series of points on a horizontal line, each labeled with the name of a political ideology or system and a representative picture. Rightmost two of the dots are blue, others are red. From left to right:
- Monarchism (crown)
- Communism (red star with yellow hammer and sickle)
- Liberalism (Democratic Party Donkey) and Socialism (red flag)
- Nazism (swastika)
- Conservatism (Republican Party elephant) and Fascism (fasces)
- Anarchism (Circled letter A) and Democracy (no symbol)
- Unlabeled dot
- Republic (Statue of Liberty)
Below: Flags labeled with political ideologies and systems. Arrangement of flags notated as [X, Y, Flag, Label] where X represents approximate relative distance from left edge and Y represents approximate relative distance from bottom edge.
- 1, 5, China, Communism
- 2, 4, Soviet Union, Socialism
- 3, 3, Nazi Germany, Nazism
- 3, 1, Likely fictitious flag featuring a green field with white crescent and star and a black tilted swastika on the crescent, Islamo-Fascism
- 4, 2, War flag of the Italian Social Republic, Fascism
- 7, 5, United States, Republic
Chart 2
A square chart divided in quadrants and colored with a gradient, which is symmetric with respect to the origin. Each quadrant is subdivided into a 19x19 grid. Axes are labeled and the labelsā background colored as follows:
X-axis left: āPost-Modern Relativism/Religiosityā (blue), middle: āStrong Fact Based Inter-subjective Analysisā (yellow), right: āPseudo-Objective āScienceā Worshipā (blue).
Y-axis top: āStatus Quoā (red), middle: āSwift, Pragmatic Reform for Social + Economic Justiceā (yellow), bottom: āRegressive Revolutionaryā (red).
Each quadrant it yellow at origin and purple near their respective outermost corners. The remaining corners are orange next to Y axis and green next to X axis.
Caption At the bottom āOn all axes, to be closer to the middle is to trend towards the path to an idealā
Labeled points by quadrant:
Top left:
- (-14, 19) Conservatism
- (-16, 17) Corporate Buddhism
- (-16, 8) New Age Populism
Top Right:
- (19, 19) Modern Fascism
- (18, 15) Objectivism
- (14, 14) Anarcho-Capitalism
- (2, 12) Liberalism
- (19, 11) New Atheism
- (0, 6) Mutualism
- (4, 5) Democratic Socialism
- (11, 3) Second-Wave Feminism
Bottom Left:
- (-4, -1) Anti-Work Populism
- (-14, -2) Third-Wave Feminism
- (-19, -16) Jihadism
- (-17, -19) Italian Fascism
Bottom Right:
- (1, -1) Post-Scarcity Anarchism
- (1, -2) True Communism
- (17, -7) Deweyite Progressivism
- (1, -11) Anarcho-Communism
- (19, -17) Nazism
- (18, -19) Marxism-Leninism
Chart 3
A blue question mark shape on white background. Image titled āMatt Boyleās Question Mark Politicsā. Ideologies and political figures are marked along the curve of the question mark, starting from the "upper end of the hook and towards the dot at the bottom:
- Communism
- Vladimir Lenin
- Socialism
- Bernie Sanders
- Liberalism
- Rand Paul
- Conservatism
- Ted Cruz
- Fascism
- Adolf Hitler
On the dot at the bottom of the question mark:
- Idiocy
- Donald Trump
Chart 4
An equilateral triangle formed from four smaller congruent equilateral triangles (AKA a Triforce shape) with political ideologies written in bubble-style labels arranged as follows:
- Top vertex: āJihadistsā
- Inside the top triangle: āIslamistsā
- Inside the inverted central triangle: āSecular Liberalsā
- Inside the bottom left triangle: āRegressive Leftā
- Inside the bottom right triangle: āConservative Rightā
- Bottom left vertex: āViolent Leftā
- Bottom right vertex: āViolent Rightā
Written directly on the triangle edges without a bubble:
- Between Islamists and Secular Liberals: āLiberal Muslimsā
- Left of Regressive Left: āPluralistsā
- Between Regressive Left and Secular Liberals: āLiberal Leftistsā
- Between Secular Liberals and Conservative Right: āConservative Liberalsā
- Right of Conservative Right: āNationalistsā
- Below Regressive Left and right of Violent Left: āAntifa Fascistsā
- Below Conservative Right and left of Violent Right: āFascistsā
Chart 5
X-axis goes from āSOCIALISMā on the left to āCORPORATISMā on the right. Y-axis goes from āLIBERTYā at the top to āTYRANNYā at the bottom. On the Y-axis lies a thick double arrow labeled āGOVERNMENTā and colored with a gradient from white at the top arrowhead labeled āLESSā to red on the bottom arrowhead labeled āMOREā, resembling a compass needle.
Near the top left and right corners of the diagram are labels āLEFTā and āRIGHTā, respectively.
Around the arrowās shaft is a yellow circle of curved directional arrows, each pointing along the arc towards the bottom of the circle.
Dashed lines from the top of the diagram curve around the needle and yellow circle similarly to magnetic field lines, converge back towards the center below the compass, and end in downward pointing arrowheads.
Arranged around the yellow circle in terms of clock face hour hand positions:
- 1 oāclock: āINDEPENDENTSā
- 2 oāclock: āCLASSICAL CONSERVATIVESā
- 5 oāclock: āNEO-CONSERVATIVESā
- 7 oāclock: āPROGRESSIVES/NEO-LIBERALSā
- 10 oāclock: āCLASSICAL LIBERALSā
- 11 oāclock: āLIBERTARIANSā
The left half of the X-axis is labeled āLIBERALSā above and āDEMOCRATSā on the bottom and a blue donkey symbol next to the needle. The right half is similarly labeled āCONSERVATIVESā and āREPUBLICANSā with a red elephant symbol.
Above and below the X-axis are dashed horizontal lines. The area between the dashed lines is labeled āMODERATESā. The top dashed line is labeled āLibertarianismā with arrows pointing upwards and the bottom dashed line is labeled āSecular Moralismā with arrows pointing downwards.
The top left of the moderates area is labeled āJEFFERSONIANā, top right is āJACKSONIANā, bottom left is āWILSONIANā and bottom right āHAMILTONIANā.
The field lines converging in from the left/right sides of the compass towards the bottom pass by labels āPOLITICALLY CORRECTā/āPIOUSLY CORRECTā, āECONOMIC INTERVENTIONISMā/āMILITARY INTERVENTIONISMā, āCOMMUNISMā/āTHEOCRACYā, respectively. They meed in the middle and pass through āCOLLECTIVISMā, āFASCISMā and āTOTALITARIANISMā.
Chart 6
Blue circle labeled āPatriarchyā partially covering a pink circle labeled āMatriarchyā. Left side represents āGender Atheismā, right side āSexuality Atheismā. Yellow arrow pointing from top left to bottom right labeled āAxis of Careā. Red arrow from bottom left to top right labeled āAxis of Knowledgeā The intersection of the axes of Care and Knowledge is labeled āMarket Economyā.
Left of the Patriarchy circle is āMenās Rights Movementā and to the right of the circle is āFourth-Wave Feminismā. Left of the Matriarchy circle is āRadical Feminismā and to the right āLiberal Feminismā.
Labels connected by small black arrows are arranged on the circles like so:
Near the bottom end of the Axis of Knowledge is āCultural Marxismā, from which an arrow points along the axis to āāTrueā Anarchyā. Slightly further along the axis, close to the overlapping edge of the blue circle is āSoft Sciencesā from which arrows point in two directions. The first one points towards the arrowhead at the bottom end of Axis of Care. On the arrowhead is āWelfare Stateā, which leads to āLeft Totalitarianismā at the tip of the arrow, then to āMarxism-Leninismā to the left and back to Welfare State.
The second path from Soft sciences is three consecutive arrows following the edge of the Patriarchy circle to āPositivist Materialismā at the tip of the Axis of Knowledge arrow, which leads to āReal Anarchyā on the arrowhead. Between Market Economy and Real Anarchy on the Axis of Knowledge is āHard Sciencesā, from which another three arrow chain along the covered edge of Matriarchy circle leads to Cultural Marxism.
Opposite to Real Anarchy, on the Patriarchy side of Axis of Care is āTheocracyā, which leads backwards on the Axis to āRight Totalitarianismā, to āAustrian Schoolā on the right, and again through Positivist Materialism to Real Anarchy.
Transcriptions for the last two will be in follow-up reply. Iām hitting the character limit.
holy shit some of these are beyond cursed
LOL itās almost as if the prerequisite to making a political compass is to be completely fucked in the head
Whatās almost causing me to spiral is the commonality of socialism and communism being portrayed as on the road to monarchism. Iām not spiralling because I very quickly realise that these are all made by idiots, and/or that what they are focusing on is the perception of socialism and communism as being authoritarian.
That and āantifa fascistsā in chart 4. AKA the Scists. lol
yeah the āantifa fascistsā absolutely sent me
These people really want to complicate things when itās really quite simple. Let me demonstrate with an elegant diagram.
...
yes i spent an hour making this
Chart 7
āTHE REAL POLITICAL SPECTRUMā
On the left āSERVANTS OF THE AEONSā, humanoid energy beings among space nebulae. On the right āSLAVES OF THE ARCHONSā, reptilian humanoids.
The spectrum from left to right, with symbols in parentheses:
- Gnosis(Ringed cross): Release from the mortal coil renders politics useless. All achieve oneness with the Monad and harmony is restored to the cosmos. See: The Nag Hammadi Library
- Erisianism (chaos star): Total freedom. Management of affairs is unnecessary as universally well aligned chakras promote benevolent behaviour from all. See: Atlantis
- Syndicalism (five-pointed star): Public participation in institutions is combined with no state. Affairs are managed at the local level. See: The Pirate Kingdom of Libertalia
- Libertarianism (Gadsden rattlesnake): Public oversight of institutions is combined with a limited state. Affairs are managed at the local level. See: Early United States
- Republicanism (classical colonnade): Influence of industry and finance on the state is controlled by a constitution and a system of check and balances. See: Early United States
- Corporatocracy (dollar sign): State and industry form a de-facto alliance. Resource allocation subject to secret policy favouring the elite. See: The United States, European Union
- Communism (hammer and sickle): Industry and state inseparable. Resource allocation subject to central policy. See: Soviet Russia, North Korea
- Fascism (swastika): Industry and state inseparable. Resource allocation and reproduction subject to central policy. Eugenics in effect. See: Nazi Germany.
- Monarchism (crown): All resources under the authority of hereditary elite. Elite practices eugenics in its own ranks. Underclass viewed as different species. See*: Feudal Europe*
- Illuminism (eye of providence): Elite and underclass now form two distinct species. All worldās resources controlled by the elite. All activities subject to central policy. See: Brave New World, Nineteen-Eighty Four
Chart 8
A conventional two-axis (Left/Right, Authoritarian/Libertarian) political compass chart. Authoritarian left, authoritarian right, and libertarian right all represented by a spooky profile portrait of Max Stirner smoking a cigar. Libertarian Left quadrant contains a smaller image of the diagram itself, which contains still smaller image of the diagram itself, except the libertarian left quadrant says ādecentralized chomskian anarcho-molotov-cocktailismā in unreadably small type.
I feel Iāve lost enough sanity transcribing these that Iām almost ready to make a political compass chart myself.
none of these are complete without posadism
Charts 5 and 7 in particular are giving Pyramid Power and/or Flat Earth.
So āunintentional moderatesā are those that both choose deliberately to believe in centrist political ideology and to participate in groupthink?
It is some Paul Graham thing apparently, i have not read that blog post.
So far Iāve only read Harry Potter and The Methods of Rationality, but can say it is an excellent place to start.
beware the man of one book
āDrink deep, or taste not the fanfiction springā
āOnly if heās read it 10000 times.ā -Bruce Lee
Anyone who uses gen AI is my opp, status report:
- so far every restaurant that Iāve been to where I noticed AI slop as part of the decor has sucked. One of the ones local to me closed, hooray!
- IDF: haha look we are Ghibli please send us more machine guns
- a third thing
jesus fucking christ I think that IDF tweet is the worst thing that has ever existed
Taking the āinsult to life itselfā to a whole another level.
Iāve been browsing bluesky a fair amount recently and itās chock full of artists making non-AI Ghibli inspired art in response to the AI trend. Which is neat.
Thatās great. In a better world, all genAI users would become black goo-producing inhuman monsters to reflect their inner selves, but I suppose this is as much justice as weāll get
OpenNutrition ā
a datasetan LLM that allows you to play āvibe nutritionistāhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43569190
First response is good quality:
This is not a dataset. This is an insult to the very idea of data. This is the most anti-scientific post I have ever seen voted to the top of HN. Truth about the world is not derived from three LLMs stacked on top of each other in a trenchcoat.
Dangā¦ The author realized an actual problem / inconvenience people had, and somehow went on to think āI know! Iāll have a random nonsense generator make up the data! Thatās a great solution!ā
a journalist wants to ask me about Urbit. Should I install Urbit so I can at least say Iāve tried it and can speak authoritatively?
[ ] no
[ ] hell no
[ ] jesus h. christ no whyi just had a 1.5 hour half-hour chat with another journalist about the Fucking Rationalists
i have a call with a third one scheduled for tomorrow
i have followed these fucks for 15 years in detail and i still donāt know how to properly explain them to our lovely pivot-to-ai readers
at least itāll be these suckersā job to do the explaining while i rant
fuck. itās rationalist season
@dgerard @BlueMonday1984 Iāve been following them for 35 yearsāhell, I hung out with Curtis Yarvin on usenet in the early 90s, visited him and fondled his lizard once in '93āand the only way I can explain them is that theyāre larping a bad post-cyberpunk novel and arenāt entirely clear on the whole concept of āfictionā.
As a fellow Usenet junkie from way back, now Iām curious which newsgroups Yarvin hung out in.
@TinyTimmyTokyo alt.peeves, alt.tasteless, probably most of the comp.* hierarchy, not sure where else.
fondled his lizard
Iām choosing to interpret that in the most euphemistically way possible
@gerikson I mean, I *literally* fondled his lizard: it was about two feet long, green, and quite bad-tempered. (He and his student house had a room full of iguanas and snakes and suchlike. And a kitchen fridge door full of designer phenylethylamine hallucinogens. Or at least test tubes with labels identifying them as such. It was an eye-opening experience ā¦
Sheesh. Everyone knows you keep the phenethylamines inside the fridge proper, not on the door, where the temperature is less stable. (Source: the Shulginsā Kitchen Procedures I Have Known And Loved.)
now youāve got me thinking if storage in fridge is necessary at all, if these are salts. worst thing that can reasonably happen is that salt picks up some water from the air, on top of water condensing on sample when vial was opened while still cold. freebase would probably be air-sensitive, but for compounds that are known sensitive iād put them under argon/nitrogen, tape vial shut (with normal electrical tape, not parafilm) and store in freezer instead. sigma lists storage temperature for MDMA analytical standard (weak solution of freebase in methanol) as -20C, but some of this might be legal cover with excess requirements for cases where youād have to be absolutely sure that analytical standard didnāt decompose (like in evidence in drug cases)
@blakestacey I believe there was rapid turnover. (PIHKAL was cited as the cookbook being used. This was in 1993, so it was pretty new ā¦)
Curtis Yarvin being into lizards is the most endearing thing Iāve ever heard about him
I also legitimately canāt tell the degree to which they donāt understand theyāre LARPing a dystopia versus how much they completely understand that and thatās why itās gonna be so awesome for them once they make fetch happen.
@YourNetworkIsHaunted Itās probably a mixture: some of them understand the relationship between beliefs and reality, a whole bunch of others are LARPing away (and weād all be better off if they signed up to play EVE Online instead), there are probably some today who look at Yarvin and see a ladder to power and wealth, and everything in between.
You canāt ascribe unity of understanding and intention to any group of n > 1 humans.
āimagine a perfectly spherical chud of uniform duncityā¦ā
āi have followed these fucks for 15 years in detail and i still donāt know how to properly explain them to our lovely pivot-to-ai readersā
Personally, focusing on their whacko beliefs around the Impending AI Apocalypsetm seems like a good place to start.
āYudkowsky sincerely believes the following. Youāll recognise it because Altman uses it as marketing buzzwords.ā
āThis Is What Yudkowsky Actually Believesā seems like a subtitle that would get heavy use in a future episode of South Park about Cartman dropping out after one semester at community college.
If South Park ever does get around to TESCREAL, I imagine Parker and Stone would have a goddamn field day with them.
No idea where they would land on what to mock and what to take seriously from this whole mess.
Donāt know what theyāre up to these days but last time I checked I had them pegged as enlightened centrists whose style of satire is having strong beliefs about stuff is cringe more than it is ever having to say anything of even accidental substance about said things.
We need something like Bare-faced Messiah, but with fedoras. People will stick with a bizzare, complex story with lots of moving parts as long as itās told well.
My University Keeps Sending Me Stupid Emails About AI, a continuing series:
From the email:
The debate will be chaired by Michael Pike. Speaking for the motion are Prof. Gregory OāHare (TCD), Maeve Hynes, Prof. Gary Boyd and Chatgpt assisted by Student Curator Ruan McCabe, all UCD. Speaking against the motion are David Capener (UU), Lucy OāConnell, Peter Cody and Meabh OāLeary, all UCD.
Artificial Intelligence is the future of climate resilient design in the same way that asian pseudo-medicinal ED treatments are the future of the white rhinoceros.
Notwithstanding the subject matter, I feel like Iāve always gotten limited value from these Oxford-style university debates. KQED used to run a series called Intelligence Squared US that crammed it into an hour, and I shudder to think what thatās become in the era of Trump and AI. It seems like a format that was developed to be the intellectual equivalent of intramural sports, complete with a form of scoring. But that contrivance renders it devoid of nuance, and also means it can be used to platform and launder ugly bullshit, since each side has to be strictly pro- or anti-whatever.
Really, it strikes me as a forerunner of the false certainty and point-scoring inherent in Twitter-style short-form discourse. In some ways, the format was unconsciously pared down and plopped online, without any sort of inquiry into its weaknesses. Iād be interested to know if anyone feels any different.
I have no knowledge or insight on the topic, but I used to get recommendations for āintelligence squaredā videos on YouTube and I always thought it was a terrible, self-aggrandizing title for a series or event. Smart People Taking About Smart Things.
Intelligence Time Cubed now, thatās the real deal.
Intelligence2 didnāt seem half bad when Robert Anton Wilson was the one talking about it way back when, in retrospect all the libertarianism was a real time bomb.
I did two Intelligence Squared debates in the UK. The best bit was I got paid. The second best was the people running it were actually very nice and quite competent. Recommend to all.
As for content, the first one featured the guy behind Liberland, so lol
Competitive forensics is an intellectual exercise, not a way of addressing or solving social problems. Itās like translating CƦsarās Commentaries ā youāre not likely or expected to have any new and valuable insights that previous translators missed, but it builds and demonstrates certain kinds of abilities and readiness.
Seeing it any other way, using it any other way, is a conceptual error with the usual outcomes.
Why even involve ChatGPT? The āagainstā side should have been allowed to bring a speak 'n spell.
if you, like me, were wondering what the point of that 25 hour non-filibuster filibuster by Booker was, hereās one potential answer.
Booker held a filibuster that wasnāt a filibuster - and he scheduled it to let him avoid attending his own committeeās probe of his Big Tech pals. [ā¦] Oh and Booker and Dems provided unanimous consent to advance a Trump nominee right after Bookerās speech.
Sorry im going to go offtrack here again, I mentioned it on bsky, and got no traction (not odd, as I think nobody cares about Booker his filibuster thing (stick a pin in that)), but I have some weird leading into conspiratorial questions about the whole thing.
First I heard about this thing is when people said it had gotten 200m likes on tiktok. Which seemed a bit high so I checked, and saw articles say it had gotten 300m. This seems impossibly high. For example, the global K-pop phenomenon āGangam styleā has gotten 5.5B views and 30M likes in 12 years. I have a hard time believing that in 24hs this centrist political debate thing (which are not popular) has gotten 350m (the highest count I saw on a news site) likes.
Which makes me wonder a lot more if tiktok has simply given up on properly counting likes and just is winging it. Esp for larger events. Could be that people just like things instinctively on tiktok (I did check if you could like a thing multiple times, but nope, one account one like it seems). I found the whole thing weird.
That is didnāt do jack shit (apart from giving people hopium about Booker, while it seemingly being his way of avoiding responsibilities) is the cherry on top.
Iām noticing my confusion.It is fucking weird.not odd, as I think nobody cares about Booker his filibuster thing (stick a pin in that)
I agree, or at least anyone thinking critically. I think that anyone would agree that the speech was, as you said, hopium. Heās giving braindead dem voters what they want: a nice, tall, liberal man who looks like he is resisting the reds. Expect him to run for the democratic nomination in 2028, assuming the trump presidency lets an election happen.
RE: view counts. Most charitably, maybe itās 300m views aggregated across different sources. Neutrally, I mean I wouldnāt be surprised if tiktok, or any other social media platform was manipulating view counts. Least charitably, someone probably asked an LLM for the view counts and just took the answer because people are fucking stupid
No it was 350m likes, not views. That is why im so confused. even at an high rate of 1 in 10 people liking it, it is just so large Iām confused.
āHow about a source senator?ā another source on hopium, not noticing that in no world do those numbers align properly. āsince amassed over 700,000 followers. ā¦ It garnered over 350 million likes, with over 150,000 active viewers at the tail end ā¦ā
Are you telling me itās improbable that the equivalent of every single American and then some liked that video?
I mentioned this on bsky and somebody went āwell it was very popular all over the worldā, and I, the weird european who focuses too much on the US politics had not even heard of it. So I just had a few alarm bells going off. But yeah, lets say 1 in 5 people like it, that is a casual 1.7 billion viewers. Large part of the worlds population joined in.
As a Canadian I knew it was happening, but I never tuned in or anything like that.
OH. so two things.
- I obviously misread your comment, as my brain filtered ālikesā into āviewsā as I guess it subconsciously thought that was more plausible.
- I believe on tiktok live specifically, you can like something multiple times, and it is counted. I occasionally watch a stream that floats at about 100 viewers, and sometimes this hits 100k likes over the course of two hours. So to hit 350m likes over the course of 25 hours, you might need like 280 viewers on average, which seems doable.*
*Please fact check this arithmetic. I have run out of motivation, in general
Edit #100: I jumped on said stream to see how it was going. Floating around 100, but hitting maybe 10k likes per hour. Apparently the booker stream hit 170k viewers at the tail end. 350m likes might actually be a little low, the dems need to up their spend on tiktok boosting
That would explain a lot and would remove all my confusion about it. (also makes the number useless and lol at everybody running with it even more then).
oh, cool, I didnāt think Iād learn a new way to hate the ālikesā clusterfuck that plagues the internet, but here we are!
Check out the unhinged classism from one of the lesser figures whoās popped up here from time-to-time (with an added bonus shout-out to Ayn Rand further down the thread)
Wow, thatās some venomously hateful text.
new york city truly is a first and fourth word city overlayed atop each other
Jesus Christ learn what words mean. Even if you use āThird Worldā to mean āpoor countriesā, fourth world is not a thing and people living in extreme poverty in developing countries are in fact not better off than non Wall Street New Yorkers.
Itās easy to read it as first and fourth āworldā but itās actually first and fourth āwordā. But the first and fourth word of what? Mein Kampf? The 18 words?
well ackthscthually after 9/11, the whole world got isekaiād where everyone exists in a game-like status point system. The 1st world is reserved for the top rank of humans, the n+1th world is worse than the nth world. IQ points = your int stat. This is just how it is, sorry
Assuming the common use of third world to mean āpoor countriesā, then I suppose a āfourth worldā country would be one that is poor and *also *not really a functional state, perhaps with some armed conflict going on.
But to describe NYC as that? Nonsense.
Jesus, what a fuck. Having spent time in both SF and NYC my guess is that this shitheadās SF pedestrian experience is getting in and out of ubers and the treadmills at equinox. That, and he is probably outwardly disdainful, which doesnāt go over well in NYC.
Talk about annoyingly vague. I read the whole thing and he never actually says what his problem is. I guess like so much classism Iām supposed to fill in the blank or something.
If he got into specifics people might think āDamn, Iāve never had that kind of experience with working-class New Yorkers. What gives?ā and he might have to consider let alone admit that he was an asshole to someone.
Wow, this wrong and unfair but itās also just stupid. Especially this:
The homeless theory of cities:
SF is idealistic and trusting because the homeless are mostly peaceful addicts commiting slow suicide
NYC is ruthless and status-obsessed because the homeless are aggressive and confrontational
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My favorite meme message board on the internet keeps putting out bangers, but this one is extra good and relevant http://www.b3ta.com/board/11416629
An AI faceswapper/nudifierās database got leaked thanks to its nonexistent security - unsurprisingly, its loaded with explicit images, including massive amounts child porn and almost certainly some revenge porn.
WIRED tried reaching out to the company behind the āimageryā, but they nuked everything and closed their doors in response.