It follows Republican outrage over Mamdani offering the same heatwave advice as everyone else.
The US Department of Energy reportedly deleted about 6,000 pages related to energy conservation as a historic heatwave tears across the country.
The deletion was suspiciously timed, following Republican outrage over Mayor Zohran Mamdani asking New Yorkers to help reduce strain on the grid by setting their AC to 78 degrees. Republicans like Ted Cruz (who has famously fled severe weather in his home state), Nikki Haley, and Representative Nancy Mace (South Carolina) quickly pounced, framing the request as socialism and an act of war on women in menopause (the Republican Party is notoriously friendly to women’s health).
Of course, this is pretty standard advice during a heatwave. It was the official stance of the Department of Energy that Americans should set their thermostats between 75 and 78 degrees, and Republican governors in deep red states like Texas have issued the same advice in the past — including current governor Greg Abbott.
“Mamdani wants you to diiieee! It’s another genocidal socialist maniac! Feeeaaar!”
Official federal policy.
The Oil & Gas Party wants you to buy more oil & gas. This government isn’t working for American, it’s funnelling American money to those who invest in oil & gas.
The Oil & Gas Party
GOP - Gas & Oil Party.
Also “Guardians of Pedophiles”.
We keep ours at 80°F unless there is a breeze, in which case we just use our ceiling fans and open everything. It gets a little uncomfortable, but if we remember to stay hydrated and eat less, then it’s all good.
slams
They can’t help themselves
Don’t blast em over it, jeez.
“Lemming Blasts News Site Over Use Of ‘Slams’ In Title”
it seemed like more of a takedown tbh
Must be a morgue with this many bodies
The same Government of Putin shitheads who killed the energy efficient heat pump incentives.
78 during day is my standard. You let your body acclimate to the warm weather. Then when you go out and about in it you don’t feel like you’re about to die.
76 at night. Set to get that low by 10pm.
We keep our AC at a constant 76 and use fans.
Same here. 76° & Ceiling fans mostly.
I’m in an older place without ceiling fans.
I have also found that a fan pointed at the ceiling can give you that nice breeze effect of a ceiling fan.
How old are you? 50?
So I don’t get chewed out: obviously energy conservation is important and obviously taking these pages down is a bad thing. That said all this government telling me to be hot for the greater good pisses me off when no ones been arrested from the Epstein files and we aren’t taxing the rich and were still building data centers.
To me this feels like someone telling me climate change is my fault because I threw out a water bottle or drive an ICE vehicle. Like ya someday I’ll get an electric car and I should have recycled the bottle but wtf. So many larger more massive issues with energy conservation at larger scales than me running the AC at 70.
I made the switch from ICE to EV a couple months ago, and it wasn’t really even about climate change. It’s just cheaper and more convenient in terms of fueling, and there’s far less maintenance to keep on top of. It just no longer makes sense to choose ICE (usually) if you already need a new vehicle, can charge at home, and don’t drive more than like 200 miles per day. I just did a road trip in it last month and it really only made the journey maybe 5-10% longer than if I used an ICE vehicle since we needed to stop for food and bathrooms anyway.
Recycling plastic is almost completely a lie. Very few recycling plants can recycle your water bottle, and it’s incredibly wasteful and costly even if they can. The better choice is to not buy plastic water bottles in the first place, and if you do then reuse them several times, but also you’re just a drop in the bucket compared to industries’ waterfalls, so don’t beat yourself up about it when you’re not perfect.
It doesn’t even have to be about climate change. It’s also about balancing the electrical load of everyone in NYC blasting their AC at once. So they don’t have brown and blackouts
A lot of the people making these decisions are also not individual people but building managers for corporations and other businesses.
IMO the reason the feds issue most these kinds of guidances is so managers can point at them and say “I’m just following best practice, don’t yell at me”
Another solid point I can appreciate that.
I get this, a solid point esp in high demand areas.
lol his advice is like the most standard advice anywhere in the world. A NYC mayor giving advice isnt the government trying to control your life. Calm your paranoid fascist brain cells down.
I have a pretty long history here of not being a fascist and this overuse of the word over something trivial is why its lost its meaning.
no ones been arrested from the Epstein files
Strictly speaking, Epstein and Ghislaine got arrested.
To me this feels like someone telling me climate change is my fault
That’s the liberal response.
“We’re going to give you a choice between the cheap dirty consumerist good and the expensive efficient consumerist goodAnd if you pick wrong, it’s your fault that climate change is happening.”
The conservative response is some combination of
“Actually, the biggest source of climate emissions is Al Gore’s farts”
and
“It’s both gay and Chinese to talk about energy efficiency”
No comments on the E-Files, just imagine how a normal person would projectile vomit thinking about any of those people being free.
My cat would have a more sensible argument! Catnip is more important than climate change. (This is irrelevant, my cat requested its inclusion)
“The liberal response” is information projected by corporations and media. Things like trying to make (poorly made) paper straws cool. Thats a media push. Not very many actual liberals think like that. A better method would be getting rid of Supertrawlers in international waters. Their nets make up most of the trash in our ocean. Ridiculous things like paper straws have a form of survivorship bias due to its …ridiculousness.
Make things like using heavy crude, supertrawlers, and government observation datacenters internationally illegal, with serious punishments like company dissolution, and long prison sentences that have no method of appeal. Pretty easy 3 to get rid of and it removes most gas/oil based pollution, most trash in the ocean, and every awful thing the government observation datacenters do. Clean water wasting, injury causing intense sound, energy grid destroying, town destroying… yeah government observation datacenters are great too.
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78f is roughly 26c, which the recommendation here in Australia during summer. I usually have mine set to 30c/86f.
I don’t understand what the issue with Mamdani’s advice is.
[Random rambling] … HE’S A SOCIALIST … [more random rambling]
In the mindset of the contrarian reactionary, it doesn’t matter what the advice is but rather that it’s being given at all.
He could have quoted MAGA and their recommendations and they still would have lost their shit.
He gave the same recommendation as the federal DOE. The sad part is this is the federal government following Fox News’ lead. Literally fox news is rewriting government messaging.
Well, government media does what its government says.
Yeah “78 set it and forget it” was good advice when I was a kid and it’s still good advice.
Don’t bother, there’s nothing to understand
long as the humidity is low, higher temps can be quite comfortable. used to keep mine at 80 til my visiting folks started futzing with the thermostat. 77-78 is a good compromise
Yeah, I live in a swamp. Dehumidification is the real miracle of ac.
I have officially rounded the corner where everything is so insane my first reaction was to laugh at how absurd this is.
Literally everything they do is the worst possible choice. They literally want to burn down the world and rule over the ashes, even if they don’t understand that’s where this is headed.
I don’t think humanity is gonna make it. Too many of us refuse to engage with reality and evidence.
Smart people predicted it already long time ago. Dumb people will choose dumb and greedy people to rule the world and nothing can be done by smart people to stop it. Unless the ruling one is smart dictator.
reality and evidence are painful. people avoid pain.
fantasy and magical thinking feels good. so they embrace it.
IME maybe like 1/20 people is grounded in a greater reality, most are living in a fictional magical world and only want to be around other people who support their fantasies.
It’s hard to trust and discuss news of USA when I reside in Europe and Asia mostly, where I believe that too much news services manipulate, fabricate, and do not verify information nor sources.
Yet, normally, people are getting paid/compensated to try not to avoid pain and to prioritize reality over pleasant feelings.
Sadly i think the powers that be will gladly overconsume and let climate, starvation, and war solve the overpopulation issue.
Probably thinking its alright, its like biblical plauges
I’m sure the Mongols, Ottomans, Greeks and Romans thought they were going to be around forever too.
Too many of us prefer what feels right to thinking.
The Republican Party is notoriously friendly to women’s health
The fuck?
Read it again. Does anything stand out?
Clearly that’s snark.
They dropped their /s
For fucks sake do you really need one?
At this point, unfortunately yes. Even if it’s only to stop dog whistling being hidden behind “it was only a joke” or “it was obviously sarcastic”.
It also helps non native English speakers.
Nah. Fuck that. You sacrifice nuance, complexity, bandwidth, and depth of communication? That’s everything the fascists want.
It’s akin to clear cutting the forest around a castle. We lose something, but it helps draw a line in the sand. At this point, we need some sort of defence line.
I reserve the right to believe what people say. I also reserve the right to not roll that back when they say it was “just a joke”.
Yes. Defend yourself from fascism not by immersing yourself in humanity, not with defense in depth, not with a robust diligently humanized intellect, not with art and philosophy, not with deeper knowledge and complexity and communication, not by becoming something they cannot understand predict or fight, but with the shallow aesthetics and quick reactions they’ve been pushing on us since the 30s! Death to the enemy! Exterminate them! That’ll fix everything!
And how does making sarcasm explicitly obvious affect any of those?
Wonder how long before Trump renames it “Department of burning Oil and Coal”
Department of finding ways to increase fossil consumption by working coal and raw oil into the American food consumption
They’ll build a land called New Jersey and populate it with “food scientists.”
We’ll make fun of them in movies, then ridicule their children on television.
They’ll poison our offspring with cancers and obesity!
Whats important is that we kept the Democrats from taking the presidency. Right kids?!
Vote blue no matter who! Fix everything!
Literally incapable of not strawmanning
Well, how the fuck else do you portray those people?
How’s winning over those voters your party lost last election going?
Look around! Clearly everyone made the right decision!
And i’ll tell ya this for nothin’ - they’ll do it again! Yeah! And get all this glorious fascism for free. Enjoy!
Seems like democrats should run a candidate that’s worthwhile and isn’t a female Reagan.
Seems like, if democrats didn’t want this, they shouldn’t have run a Republican campaign.
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I did. It sucks the rest of the US didn’t agree with PSL’s platform enough to get out and vote for the obvious better choice, but that’s just another example of the tragic consequences of the US being so far behind the rest the world in education I guess.
In the general election, there were only two choices. That’s how the game theory of our election works. You can talk about making the obvious better choice in the Democratic primary all you want and that’s fine, but if you bitch about voting third party in the general election you are objectively a fucking moron who doesn’t have a goddamn clue.
Either that or a pro-fascist concern troll spreading disinformation on purpose. One or the other.
Incorrect, the first party to get 51% of electoral college votes win. That is the system Americans choose to continue to live under. Not the made up system you described.
If 31% of the US population voted third party, a third party would win the white house.
Actually it’s as low 21%, but that’s a theoretical low and unlikely to happen.
Well, I hope you enjoy the fascism you helped cause with that stupid move.
Incorrect, Third Party voters did not cause Harris’ loss.
What did was Democrats running Kamala Harris without a primary, after trying to pretend Biden was mentally and physically stable enough to actually be president again. That and the whole endorsing and explicitly materially supporting a genocide. And Harris’ extensive history of anti-black racism. And Harris exclusively catering to the far-right despite every single retired democratic strategist telling the DNC for over a decade now that going right will not win a single vote as Trump supporters do not change their voting habits.
And people like you. Trying to shame people into voting for a genocidal racist far-right fascist with a blue tie.
A female Reagan!! Hahahahaha!
I also thought that was hilarious. She was a terrible candidate. This country is the worst.
We’re a deeply un-serious country.
“They’re coming for your
gunskidsthermostat.”
