The pure, unmitigated nerve Playstation has makes me very curious to see how the PS6 will do. Are they correct that most people are mindless sheep who will slurp up whatever anti-consumer crap they offer? Maybe.
I will not buy a console without a disk drive. They might persuade me with a system like the Switch, otherwise I’ll get a steam machine or a similar game pc to use as a console.
I am shocked that people are willing to pay $70 for a digital download when they can buy a used disc for $10. I get that you’re paying for convenience, but it’s too much!
It’s not as convienient as it is loss of control of the media for the consumer.
Wait till the PS5 and 6 are as old as the ps2 is now and watch Sony say, “meh. We don’t license that IP anymore so we’re ripping it off your console and from our stores.”
Yes, they are but also the next PlayStation will be a handheld like steam deck or switch 2
Yes, most people are sheep. They will not care that it will affect them, because they think it will not.
I feel like the often unspoken rebuttal to any defense of Playstation doing what Steam already does is how much easier it is to pirate your Steam library if they go too far off the rails. I suspect that part of the reason Steam has been slow to enshittify is their recognition that piracy is a competitor.
My entirte 1300 title Steam library is cracked and backed up to local media, not a single game isn’t able to be played if Valve decides to cut me off, though I have to crack and run an emulator instead of just saving a local installer like I do with my equally large GOG games library. Added bonus, once cracked they don’t need the Steam client running, so it shaves a bit off the resources demanded of your system to run the game you gut when cracking it.
Which is why the GOG one is growing, and all I buy on Steam anymore is the occasional DLC for a game I already own.
hypervisor bypassed games ≢cracks.
To be fair, even when I still used Steam I cracked Denuvo, the “First Run, please connect to verify license” that poped up again and again no matter how many times I verified the game finally put anything with third party DRM not in a “Crack it” box but in a “Put on your eyepatch” one.
Steamstub is at least functional, I’d not mind it if they didn’t force you to run the full Steam clinet rather than a low resource daemon like they could do. I mean there’s a project to do Galaxy (which is already optional) with Comet, works cross platform and doesn’t need a giant spammy client giving me horrible “For you!” recommendations when I want to play a game.
Hasn’t Gabe explicitly said this?
Only in every single piracy thread known to man in the last 2 years.
No hate, im just tired of seeing the quote
But while its normal on PC
You can shop ANYWHERE
you can buy completely drm free games off GOG, download the installer and keep it forever
Shop around on multiple sites, steam, gog, uplay, greenmangaming etc, get good prices
On PlayStation sonys store is your only option… a monopoly (wonder what EU will say?) and while they sometimes have ok discounts, they suck compared to physical games, the used market, trading etc. and being able to play your old games in 20 years is just awesome… not possible when they shut down the ps5 servers, or whatever.
On pc you got emulation, backwards compatibility layers etc. so you can play anything (almost)
And … most people need a computer anyway. Why not just get one that can do gaming too, skip the console?
Stop all the downloadin’
And … most people need a computer anyway.
This hasn’t been true for for several years now. For “most people”, a smart phone is all they need for their daily computing tasks.
A smartphone is still a computer, and emulation on arm (including android) is still an option. Just look at things like https://gamenative.app/
Yep, normies dont have computers, can confirm IRL. Phonebrains.
Its crazy to us nerds.
Playstation still has no games. I will wait 5 years for the emulator to show up and play whatever game is locked to the system if I care.
It’s sad we have come to the point that doiong the bare minimum is considered consumer friendly…
I’m confused, because I had an Xbox and was definitely buying secondhand games.
Sure they proposed killing that with their always online bs, but they caved to the consumers and “flipped the switch” they said they couldn’t flip.
They didn’t cave until they lost noticable market share to Sony from people switching over the plan.
Xbox, in 2013, was trying to be consumer-friendly with it’s game sharing system. I hate to feel like I am defending Microsoft, but the convoluted game sharing system that they had proposed along with the Xbox One reveal would have ultimately allowed consumers to finally resell digital games.
People keep saying this and forget that the reason that wasn’t well received was because they were going to give the ability to third party publishers to decide if you could sell your game or not.
It wasn’t ever all about just letting you sell digital games to other players it was also about limiting discs you could resell period and only at certain participating retailers.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/microsoft-clarifies-xbox-one-used-game-policy
It was just an easy system to attack, and difficult to justify. I thought it sounded good.
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