The full transcript undercuts Hur’s claims that Biden could not remember his son’s death and had “poor” memory

The full transcript of President Joe Biden’s five-hour interview with special counsel Robert Hur’s investigators “paints a more nuanced portrait” of Biden’s memory than the special counsel’s report, according to The Washington Post, which noted that “Biden doesn’t come across as being as absent-minded as Hur has made him out to be.”

The transcript “could raise questions about Hur’s depiction of the 81-year-old president as having ‘significant limitations’ on his memory,” according to The Associated Press.

Hur in his report declined to charge Biden, arguing that it would be difficult to convince a jury to convict with a memory that the special counsel described as “faulty” and “poor,” noting that Biden could not recall when his son Beau died or when he served as vice president.

But Biden said exactly when his son died in the interview.

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    This whole kerfuffle seems so stupid. Biden didn’t take any memory tests, didn’t get evaluated by a psychiatrist or any memory experts, and nobody authoritative on the topic of memory or brain function was involved.

    A fair and accurate headline would have been “Republican lawyer thinks Biden is senile.” A republican has that opinion? Stop the fucking presses

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      Even “liberal” media in the US loves Trump and will print anything that might further the close race narrative, regardless of veracity.

      Trump gets eyeballs on news, which directly leads to ad revenue. US media is addicted to Trump as a means of selling ad space and would gladly let the country burn down for a few extra ad sales.

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      The only way out of this is education. This drivel is maddening. Human minds are as wasted and polluted as the environment.

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        I’ve long been advocating for the Democratic party to adopt a Teacher’s classroom mindset. Think about what Bernie, Warren, and Porter did in basically elevating the understanding of civics, history, and current-events of our country.

        Use all donation money to just honestly spoonfeed Americans vital information one bite-size ad at a time.

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      Even that title would be inaccurate. He just used the situation to lie that he thinks Biden is senile to hurt Biden’s chances of getting elected again. It’s a blatant violation of ethics.

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      He doesn’t think Biden is senile, he even said Biden has a near photographic memory dealing with the House. Hur misrepresented the truth then pretends the “I don’t recall” defense is not the most common defense used in interviews with feds.

      An accurate headline would have been: Member of ratfucker party tried to ratfuck Biden.

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    Full transcript. The excerpt in question starts on page 82 of the first interview session.

    I actually really recommend reading for a few pages. Obviously it’s interesting to see the primary source and judge Hur’s claim about Biden not remembering when his son died, or flip to some random page and read a little and make an evaluation of Biden’s mental fitness. But the little section that begins with talking about Beau dying was just really unexpected to me.

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      Wow that was really interesting. Biden comes across as more of a nice old dad than anything else.

      He seems pretty sharp and can remember lots of details and the order of specific events after discussing with others. That’s how I generally place things too, I can rarely remember exact dates. I hope I’m that well-off when I’m in my 80s.

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        My favorite moment of the 2020 campaign was during the debate, Trump was mudslinging something or other about Hunter and Biden full on stopped, looked dead into the camera, and made it explicitly clear how much he cared for his son and would support him through his problems. It was a great thing to see.

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          It’s a tie with the time when Trump was trumpeting and Biden basically said “whatever, man” and shut him down like a parent to a goofy child.

          But I think I’m having trouble remembering the details, so 1) I’m out as prez and 2) anyone remind me?

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        Agreed. It’s all projection with these dimwits. They wish they were as sharp as Biden, but most of them were in cognitive decline before birth.

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        He’s had a lot of terrible things happen to him with regards to family, and he strikes me as someone whose tragedies stay close to his heart and remain fresh. He’s very human. I’m okay with him forgetting which year he lost Beau, because I sometimes get mixed up on the year I lost my mom (5 years ago) and I never remember the exact year my dad passed away (20+ years ago).

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    Is there a law that’s been broke here, even if it’s just defamation or something? I’d love to see this asshole prosecuted.

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      there is a solid case of defamation.

      He used a position of authority that’s supposed to have been neutral to create a false impression out of political motivations. never mind that it wasn’t his job and he’s not qualified in any case to make such an assessment.

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        Oh boy can’t wait to see this one slog its way through 32 courts over the next 19 years and end in an unsatisfactory conclusion a decade after all parties involved have already died

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          fired is just the first step. he needs to be investigated by somebody independent to see if his other decisions are also politically motivated as well as if there wasn’t any sort of corruption in this particular case.

          And, anyone found to behaving in a corrupt manner needs to be dealt with in the appropriate manner. (I.E, jail time.)

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        For defamation you have to prove that he lied, and that he knew he lied. Has nothing to do with qualifications or motivation.

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    Bet Hur thought it was easy to face a congressional committee as he was sitting on his couch.