Nothing. That’s the whole point of federation.
Other instances would still be online, and it would be business as usual there.
There would likely be discussion about it on other instances, but Lemmy wouldn’t shut down just because .world or .ml went offline.
Well, not exactly nothing, the communities on them would likely move or merge somewhere else.
Unlike others, I’d expect a signicifant decline of posts as not only many users but also loads of communities would be lost. That’s why from my perspective users and communities should be evenly distributed across instances.
On top of that, there should be a feature to move entire accounts or communities to other instances. That way a community including all its members could just be migrated before a major shutdown.
Similarly, I think it would be a huge disturbance for the email system and possibly the entire internet world-wide if Gmail went down next month even though there are in theory plenty of alternative providers. Or supermarkets. If the IT of Walmart, Visa/MasterCard, Amazon AWS, Microsoft etc. have an outage it always has huge impact.
Lemmy as a whole isn’t that big and far from being critical infrastructure but we all want it to grow we should bear in mind that huge central services are always more risky than many small services.
there should be a feature to move entire accounts or communities to other instances.
It’d be cool if you could specify a backup mirror community, so there could be an immediate failsafe.
That’s an amazing idea from my perspective which would really help the fediverse in general. Your proposal would solve not only the issue of instances disappearing completely but also temporary outages. For example Feddit.de as one of the biggest German instances had several technical issues lately. And as instances are typically administered by volunteers during their freetime that’s totally fine, accepted and expected. Such a failover concept would heavily reduce the pressure on their shoulders!
People will just flock to other instances. There are a ton more instances other than .world and .ml. That’s the point of the fediverse. Lemmy won’t die.
Mass exodus to surviving instances, severe issues with account creation, and a novel sense of overcoming adversity for those who remain. If .ml’s admins also cease developing, lemmy will stagnate for quite a while. Coin flip survival or death within 2 years.
I guess some communities would disappear and my feed might slow down a little bit. That’s about all I think I’d notice.
Most communities would probably move to another server, causing the same funding problems elsewhere.
If .ml runs out of funds, there’s a good chance the devs are also running out of funds, so Lemmy may stop being maintained in that case.
Communities would have to migrate.
who
Nothing much. I am on kbin.social and it is fine…
It seems to me like lemmy.world has more activity. One of my threads even has 6/7 upvotes and both commenters from it (on ps1graphics, which is a kbin community). Oddly on the blender community (also kbin?) my thread got 4 upvotes from different instances but no comments EDIT: And I just checked, it seems to have not federated to lemmy.world (23 hours ago, probably before the temporary activity block?) and the one upvoted by LW seems to not have gone to the other instances
There is a lot more activity (threads and votes at least) on !artshare
Hey, would you mind linking me to that ps1 graphics and blender community?
https://kbin.social/m/ps1graphics and https://kbin.social/m/blender . I tried community links with one before and it seemed to not work, but !ps1graphics and !blender (
!blender@kbin.social
am I missing something with kbin communities in this format?)Though I looked at my profile on your instance and neither post shows up, so these communities may not federate to you. Oddly, Ask Kbin does but manually editing the URL to the others does not work
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !artshare@lemmy.world
This is why I think there needs to be a way to recoup costs besides donations. Having a blended income is a good thing.
Donations, subscriptions, “gold”, maybe a light sprinkling of ads or sponsors, and even a paid api for LLMs to scrape.
Ads and data scraping? If we can’t survive without that I would rather go back to usenet, irc, and mailing lists etc.
Just no to those shitty suggestions. Maybe you should go back to Reddit - you might be more comfortable there.
I would have to find and re-subscribe to a whole bunch of .world communities.
The loss of .ml would just be a plain improvement overall.
Why is .ml bad?
Because it’s a tankie instance run by people worse then reddit moderators.
Tankies are cute. I feel protective of their moving naivety