Fuck them. Hiding behind such a horrible thing to support trump.
I’m glad Trump isn’t doing any genocide. /s
If this is the kind of mental illness floating on the left. strap up and strap in, The Republicans will never lose an election again. Even if they are legit
This is so bad it reminds me of the conspiracy theory that Just Stop Oil is actually run by the Oil corpos, with the aim of being so distasteful they turn people against enviornmentalism.
Not even a month…
He’s got every flag in his bio except for the US. Who does this guy work for, exactly?
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Why re-elect genocide when you can elect double genocide with a side of imperialism…
Literally only the mental cases speak this way. By mental cases I mean the people that want destruction of a country for their own greedy reasons instead of building the country to what it once was.
Legit 0 IQ take, holy shit
A row of clown emojis is the only appropriate response.
Now that’s some medical-grade copium.
I don’t remember hearing any Dems talking about turning Gaza into a beach resort after they purge the locals.
They didn’t say it out loud, but they allowed the Israeli government to bomb the shit out of Gaza.
Trump said it out loud.
You mean he said it while Biden was trying to persuade us that he was the one most aligned with Israel?
Act matter much more than word
If you honestly believed he wouldn’t act when he was back in power you need to have your head examined.
As much as it might displease you the fact is since Trump has won Israël Palestine have truced and civilian are not longer dying on a daily basiq
Not saying it is not going to happens, at least I hope not. Still fact remains to this day.
What a meaningless thing to say in this context, as both parties act the same way: supporting Israel.
So the only difference we have to go by is words. And Trump’s are the most ghoulish shit any elected politician has said so far.
What a meaningless thing to vote if whatever you vote both parties act the same. I’m glad we have more than 2 political parties in France
Same here in Germany, but these two parties are not at all the same, even if they don’t differ much in that one (and a bunch of other) issues.
Yeah, I mean there are some unimportant issues they disagree on like:
More school shootings vs less school shootings?
Are trans people human or not?
Should non-white people and women be allowed to work jobs?
But let’s just ignore those, they’re unimportant.
Get fucked and civility be damned. Permaban me
Can’t hear them over the sound of the bombs they send
Edit: to everyone who upvoted the guy below and downvoted me, check their latest comment in the thread. In case they delete it:
Well, you might recall that the funding was approved by Congress, and Presidents should be impeached and held accountable for overstepping those bounds, like how trump was impeached for withholding aid to Ukraine in 2016. Furthermore, Israel is a long term ally, who suffered a brutal terrorist attack in October, and they are in a precarious situation, as their neighbors are not found of their existence, so we have to toe the line between supporting our ally, but also resist genocide and ethnic cleansing. Turns out, geopolitics is not simple.
Oh, did Trump stop sending bombs? I was under the impression he was escalating things.
There’s an ongoing ceasefire, trump is all words, but you’d know better if you actually cared about Palestinians more than performatively. The daily deaths are much lower so far than under democrat administration. This is surely not thanks to trump’s good desires for Palestinians, he’s as much of a genocidal ghoul as any American politician, but the numbers are the numbers
If you had a working memory, you’d recall that trump has been calling Bibi and torpedoing ceasefire and foreign aid talks.
Also, there are a lot fewer Palestinians in Gaza left to shoot, so it would make sense that the numbers went down.
Oh, and the current ceasefire was negotiated by the Biden administration.
But you’d remember all that if you cared “more than performatively.”
the current ceasefire was negotiated by the Biden administration
Source? I feel like you just make this up. It was enacted literally the day before the inauguration wasn’t it? Why enact a ceasefire the day before the inauguration of your political opponent after 2+ years funding the genocide and talking about Pissrael’s right to defend itself and arresting students at campuses for protesting a genocide?
Also, there are a lot fewer Palestinians in Gaza left to shoot, so it would make sense that the numbers went down.
God you guys are fucking vile, trivialising stuff like that and pulling out bullshit arguments. The ceasefire is ongoing, that’s the reason why orders of magnitude people are being murdered, not a lack of Palestinians to be genocided. Nazis ramped up their industrial elimination of “Untermenschen” when they saw they were losing, despite “fewer left to shoot”.
Source? I feel like you just make this up. It was enacted literally the day before the inauguration wasn’t it?
Pop quiz… Who was the president the day before Trump was inaugurated in 2025?
Why enact a ceasefire the day before the inauguration of your political opponent…
Maybe because the preservation of human rights and life should be pursued regardless of who the President will be tomorrow?
This gave me a good laugh. You believed the propaganda.
I’m curious how this works. If anyone makes a deal anywhere in the world, whoever the US president at that time should receive credit or blame for the negotiations. is that how this works?
Most importantly does this mean I can i blame Trump for the Luka Donic trade to the Lakers?
Maybe because the preservation of human rights and life should be pursued regardless of who the President will be tomorrow?
So how is that compatible with the 2+ years of funding and supporting genocide?
Holy shit what a dumb take
Fuck Jill Stein and every additional piece of shit who promotes her.
Watch this hour long interview Mehdi Hasan did with her. She’s fucking horrible and I’m glad the finest interviewer of our time got an hour to push her on her bullshit.
☐ Genocide and things stay pretty much the same
☐ Extra genocide and things get worse
☐ Waste vote (get extra genocide anyway)
“Democracy”
Its almost like money and first past the post elections only serve to narrow down political options.
But now you can stay at Trump hotel, Gaza! Think of the amenities!
I can see the golf course now, wasting more water than Nestle just to keep the greens in shape.
Extra genocide? It’s the same amount of genocide…
Do tell that to all the brown and queer people in America. I’m sure they’ll all be reassured that there won’t be any more genocide.
You might want to reassure the Navajo while you’re at it. If you can get to them before they’re put into what is definitely not in any way a concentration camp in Guantanamo Bay.
Getting mad at people for not being willing to condone a genocide is a really wild take to me.
If you’re saying that genocide over there is okay so that genocide over here doesn’t happen as quickly then I don’t really know how to argue that.
We got to this point because the Democrats themselves have been toothless for much of the last 25 years, and prop up the same system that the Republicans are fast tracking even more. The dems did not lose this election just because of the Gaza vote, they lost it because they wouldn’t listen to or support the regular people on the street. Dems had the chance to enshrine things into law - they controlled senate and house for the first two years of Biden. They did not codify any protections for trans rights or abortion rights, then used both as a fundraising event.
Over 50% of white men and women voted for Trump this time around.
So instead of getting mad at people who could not conscientiously condone a genocide, why not get mad and dismantle a system wherein a few billionaires get to buy the entire world and commit genocides on a massive scale? The US has been bombing half the world for almost its entire history. That doesn’t change because Republicans are in power or Democrats are in power.
The current system is between ultra rich and everyone else. If everyone else keeps shitting on each other that won’t change.
You seem to have forgotten your previous post where you said, “It’s the same amount of genocide.”
No it isn’t, now there is more genocide. Of brown people, of queer people, and apparently they’re coming for the indigenous as well.
But arguing about the election is far more important than acknowledging that, isn’t it?
So you are ok with genocide then?
That’s a question focused solely on deflection and you know it, lol.
You’ve had two chances to acknowledge that there have been several domestic genocides added in the U.S. and you have not been willing to, so I think you should be asking that question of yourself.
How have I failed to acknowledge that? I said genocide there vs genocide here. Seems to be an acknowledgement
However by your own logic, you have not said you don’t support genocide.
What people get mad at you about is your insistence that checking the box next to somebody’s name on a ballot is a gesture of 100% support for everything on their agenda and everything they have ever done.
The genocide over there and everywhere else is not okay. The fact that the US supports it and does tons of imperialist shit is not okay.
I voted for Harris and genocide is not ok. But you know what else? I have a smart phone and exploited foreign labor is not ok. I have to drive my old car to work and fossil fuels, greenhouse gas emissions, unwalkable towns, and microplastic pollution are not OK. I eat food, and both exploited underpaid migrant farm workers and corporation produced ultra-processed foods are not OK.
The fact that the US is imperialist and supports Israel was simply not on the presidential ballot in the general election. That is not OK, but it is true. Changing that part of the world for the better means working to make the next election’s choices better, whether that means the peaceful rise of a charismatic progressive candidate or a bloody revolution accelerated into being by shot Trump is doing.
Thing is, the Biden Harris administration could easily have put a stop to it at the very beginning.
Harris could have said that she was opposed to the way Biden dealt with the war.
Neither of those things happened.
Harris had almost 3 million less popular votes than Trump. If everyone single person who stayed home because of the genocide in Gaza had still voted for Harris, Trump would still have won that popular vote by a huge amount.
I’ve seen articles blaming the Gaza vote for it. I’ve seen articles saying Latinos and black people moved to trump. I’ve seen articles blaming literally everyone except the fact that the majority of white people voted for Trump.
That’s something that needs to be talked about. Why did a majority of white men and a majority of white women vote for Trump?
Why were the democrats so establishment oriented that they have, since 2016, refused to run any single candidate who appeals to the people?
Biden won in 2020 because of how badly Trump managed Covid. People did not vote for him because they thought he was a great candidate, they voted for him because Trump royally fucked up.
Democrats are owned by the same billionaires and lobbyists that control the Republicans. If that entire system is not broken up, there won’t be any change whatsoever.
Democrats could easily have gotten more votes if they campaigned on what the regular person was asking for, but they didn’t. They spent all their time campaigning with other right wing people. The fault lies at their door for losing this election. And since trump has come in, they have not even had a unified opposition to him - most votes have had some Democrats siding with the Republicans for confirmations, etc.
If people spend the next 4 years saying see you should have voted for kamala instead of addressing the root causes of the issue, all that’s going to happen is that within the next 4 to 8 years there won’t be another election.
The windows in the US has shifted so far to the right its not even funny. The democrats themselves would be considered a centre right party at best in most of western Europe.
I’m pretty sure I agree with everything you wrote.
I’m a white American disgusted with most of my fellow white Americans. Lots of stuff went wrong with the election and campaign, but every mofo so voted for Trump was alive to see his first term and everything that’s happened since then.
Also agreed that the priority now is to figure out a way forward with a party that actually wants to help people. But when the subject of a discussion is which 2024 vote was best and why, people are still gonna discuss.
Technically it’s actually less, there’s an ongoing ceasefire. Hope it lasts, but no hope tbh, Trump definitely doesn’t care about Gazan lives.
The ceasefire has been violated several times by Israel
I’m aware, but the situation is still better for Gazans than it was before the ceasefire. Fuck the genocidal state though.
