Not hard enough.
“Being a good father,” Biden said.
Do good fathers exonerate their children for corruption?
I recognize that Hunter was a target of right-wing lawfare, but I maintain that a blanket parden of all ‘nonviolent crimes’ for over a decade is the wrong tool for the job.
It was to protect him from the crazy MAGA lunatics, if it wasn’t a blanket pardon the right would have manufactured something to get him with. There are plenty of things to criticise Biden for, but this is something I believe any parent would have done in that situation, and its completely fair and the right thing to do.
MAGA is not and will never play fair.
See, that’s the thing: I know it was against any arbitrary charges that were known to come, but as you say - MAGA won’t hold themselves to reason, so rational preemption won’t work. And the actual crimes Hunter was convicted of during that time were absolved. All after Biden Sr avowed he would not pardon him.
I don’t have children, so I cannot fault his devotion to his kid, but I still feel that justice was not (and maybe could never be) had, and that the position and responsibility of president and presidential pardon were severely cheapened as a result.
If it wasn’t trump coming in next I doubt he would have done it.
Well you didn’t work hard at all on prosecuting traitors even after the supreme court handed you a golden ticket to do official acts so this mess is your fault bud. Take comfort that you won’t have to live long with the consequences of your failures just like the rest of the geriatrics in your party that won’t get the fuck out of the way.
Didn’t uphold the 14th ammendment. That would have solved it all.
Is he actually this stupid? He can’t actually be this stupid, can he?
Genocide geriatric Joe didn’t prevent a fascist accelerationist takeover of the US.
You can only do so much in a democracy within the law. If you ignore the law and Constitution we are seeing now how things can be done instantly, but it’s all illegal.
I would have had a bullet in his head on January 7th. Damn the consequences.
Why all the hate for Biden? It’s trump and the republicans that have created this situation, isn’t it?
Biden had so many chances to change the path we are on today. And he squandered every single one of them.
This. At the very least, he could have expanded the SC to 13 and named a bunch of new judges. But nah.
He’s an old fart that does things by the book and does them well with mostly good intentions from an outside perspective. He worked within those confines and got shit done in an adversarial environment. He didn’t anticipate the fuck-the-book approach that is now allowing trump to flagrantly ignore the constitution.
Had he known he may have reoriented his strategies. But that’s hindsight right? Also fuck him for preventing an actual primary and forcing Kamala on the ticket - that was a known bad approach even without hindsight.
He didn’t anticipate the fuck-the-book approach that is now allowing trump to flagrantly ignore the constitution
Trump was perfectly transparent about his intentions. If Biden didn’t anticipate this he’s incompetent and deserves every ounce of hate coming his way.
He ignored plenty of “by the book” ways to avoid our current situation. And he didn’t anticipate the approach that Trump had used for the 4 years prior to his presidency? That just proves he’s a terrible president.
Trump did it the first time. Why would any person with common sense not believe he would do that again?
Honestly, because we had clear expectations for Biden when he was elected.
Close the inhumane border camps.
Deal with Covid.
Prosecute trump and his collaborators litany of crimes.
In the end, he went 0/3 on those. His legacy is one of shirked responsibility.
Isn’t “nothing will fundamentally change” what he said to the donors at a private event? Mission accomplished I guess…
No idea, I don’t really give a fuck about a small quote without context said behind closed doors. I care about what issues were facing the nation, and what was done to solve them.
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Reminds me of an adage:
It takes two to lie: one to lie, and one to listen
That’s a bad adage; I wouldn’t claim that as a true thing most people believe.
You had the SCOTUS authorization (presidents can’t do crimes if it’s “party of their duties”) to arrest Trump and make him go away, but instead we now live in the Fascist States of America. The GOP are domestic terrorists, but her, at least you can die sun knowing you played by the rules. Go to hell old man.
Exactly this. He is the reason why the us is in the shape that it is today, and is the reason why it will continue to regress in the next foreseeable future.
when he’s sad, he thinks about all the babies in Gaza he murdered, then he feels better
Yes, the 6-3 conservative SCROTUS totally would have supported Biden having Trump arrested. Only Republicans can do whatever they want.
The Chad move was to arrest the SCOTUS as soon as the ruling came down.
So move faster than they can stop him. Trump has shown how effective disappearing people without due process can be. The Supreme Court can’t resurrect the dead as far as I’m aware.
They said “arrested,” not “killed.” I agree that an assassination would have been a good way for Biden to sacrifice himself for his country.
Other events can follow an arrest.
It’s not like they could stop him…
“We determined Biden is not immune from prosecution for this act.” Congress would impeach and easily pass it since Democrats don’t worship him, Harris becomes president, Trump is convicted and no punishment happens, Trump is elected president.
Now, if he did something permanent like have him assassinated, that would have made the world a better place and could not have been reversed.
Fuck off, Joe. Nobody wants to listen to you anymore. Thanks again for giving us Trump 2.0 you senile, vain, self-centered piece of shit.
Joe clung to impotent “power” long enough to give Harris just 107 days to overthrow the most famous person in the world Donald Trump. Did not go well.
Yeah he can eat shit. A genocidal war criminal both at home and abroad.
no you didn’t, dumbass. we knew this was coming and you did nothing to prevent it.
Yep he should have had trump and all these ilk in jail, but nope.
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You’re joking right? We literally have a felon in the Whitehouse…shit tons of these assholes broke the law and then the turnip got into power and has pardoned them. Biden drug his feet and shit never got done. So they end up getting pardoned before any real consequences happened.
And now you have an actual president saying they’re going to jail people based on political affiliation…
No but I would like people to be arrested for causing insurrections. Arresting people on political affiliation would be tyranny. We should only arrest people based on the crimes that they commit
Right? Like for fuck’s sake, he could have at LEAST pressured Merrick Garland to do his goddamned job!
No, we want the president to arrest convicted criminals, dumbfuck
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I’m so confused by your statement. Are you actually unaware of all the literal crimes Trump has committed? And even been convicted of?
He could have had them arrested for the treason and domestic terrorism. It’s just a coincidence that most of those fall into one political affiliation.
You failed to do the one thing that mattered, Biden, which was replace Garland and make sure that someone actually put Trump’s ass behind bars as well as his enablers like Musk, Bannon, Miller, and so on. (Seriously, how was the stuff in Project 2025 not enough to hit people with fucking conspiracy, racketeering and sedition charges?) Instead you slow walked this shit and it’s literally entirely your own fucking fault that we’re in this mess. Especially your unwillingness to stick with your original promise of being a one-term President and allowing the Democrats to have an actual primary, instead once again snatching actual choice out of the hands of the people and anointing a new candidate instead. How many fucking times has that failed now, dipshit?
I got zero sympathy for this blithering bitching idiot. Go cry about your legacy more, chucklefuck. We’re facing out of control fascism because you were a pussy and didn’t want to “lOoK PoLiTiCaL.”
Exactly, this.
But wait, there’s more…
Enabling a genocide- something all the candidates were going to do anyway- is deeply unpopular.
Supporting Israel at the expense of US citizens isn’t okay under any circumstances or leader. It is time to end this farce; the only folks who don’t listen are the ones being paid not to.
It was especially stupid because he was dealing with Netanyahu, who clearly was making decisions to make Biden look bad and enable Trump. As if Trump and Netanyahu aren’t exactly the fuck alike, both total criminals looking for power to avoid paying for their criminal activities.
So, on top of enabling a fucking genocide, it was also crassly politically fucking stupid to try to be wheeling and dealing with a guy who once again clearly supported Trump and would fuck Biden over to get Trump a win. Biden is a fucking a buffoon.
And to all the Democratic voters who still support Israel, remember this: Netanyahu wanted Trump to win. He wanted this for us.
how was the stuff in Project 2025 not enough to hit people with fucking conspiracy, racketeering and sedition charges
Genuine question— Conspiracy generally involves an agreement between two or more people to commit an unlawful act. The “unlawful act” being key, what unlawful act is there to charge someone with conspiracy regarding the policy changes in Project 2025?
On the other hand, once the SCOTUS basically made the President king so long as they did it in the interest of the country, Biden should have just put all of them in jail, but that’s beside the point.
Shut the fuck up, Biden. When the Supreme Court made a president a king, you had the chance to remove ALL of these traitors as an official presidential action and you still chose the high road.
So just enjoy your dementia in peace.
he chose the roads his donnors told him to
Darth Brendon entering the SC building with a shotgun as an official act to showcase how stupid that SC decision was would have been the best timeline.
Why didn’t you aggressively pursue the criminal terrorist known as Taco when you could do something about it?
He should have had all those traitors rounded up on Day One, and held at Guantanamo for their roles on Jan 6, and as National Security threats in general.
Instead, he appointed the weakest Republican in existence as AG, who dithered and slow-walked the investigation, and gave the MAGA traitors a 2 year head start on the election.
The Democrats are as responsible and complicit in the MAGA rise to power as the Republicans themselves.
Well, I don’t think they are as responsible ( I think that gets too close to DARVO stuff - the Republicans keep setting out to break government, destroy everything good that has been done and hand a lot of money to the already uber-wealthy and the Democrats do a terrible job at stopping them - it’s almost like an abused partner in a very toxic household being blamed for the offender), but they certainly look like a bunch of Neville Chamberlains.
They were certainly not the leadership we needed in 2021 when it came to dealing with these criminals and these terrorists that have taken root in our country.
" B-b-but we don’t want the arrests to appear politically motivated. That could damage trust in our democracy "
Cowards, every one.
His presidency will be remembered not for what he did, which was mostly good, but for what he did not do. His legacy will be viewed similarly to Hoover’s. Both were principled men who, when faced with a serious problem, could not find it in themselves to deal with it.
Dear god, Hoover was a monster and a criminal. He is known in particular for how unprincipled he was. From casually violating human rights at a national scale to targeting civil rights leaders, to blackmail and terrorism, he established the playbook that modern totalitarians like Trump continue to abuse today.
Using Hoover and Biden in the same breath, let alone calling a monster like Hoover “principled” is beyond the pale.
Edit: Ignore this rant. I was thinking J Edgar Hoover, notorious leader of the BOI/FBI, not former president Herbert Hoover who was absolutely a forgettable milquetoast president like Biden. Though Biden didn’t murder and tear-gas our own unemployed veterans, so he does have that going for him.
Herbert Hoover sucked ass too, they weren’t called Hoovervilles because he did such an amazing job of stewardship and not being a racist.
What’s funny is how much accidental overlap there actually is between them. Principled my ass lmao.
Perhaps principled wasn’t the best term I could have used. It was meant in terms of their philosophy of the role of government. There’s no question that Herbert Hoover prioritized that over helping people.
That’s kind of the point of this thread I’m glad we’re having a consensus.
Oh, dear god. You’re right. Ha. That’s actually a very apt comparison.
I complain about J Edgar too much and forgot Herbert Hoover even existed, as I am sure history will forget about Biden.
I was so confused until I got to the edit.
It still kinda made sense if you knew about the Palmer raids and the first red scare, however, I doubt anybody has ever been taught about those things in the US lol
Yeah Hoover was pretty bad… We had literal shanty towns all over the place that people called “Hoovervilles”
I guess I should have been specific. J Edgar was certainly a monster, he ran the FBI like his own private army and multiple presidents just let him do it.
“Mostly good”
commits genocide
Yeah, not sure how you put those two together chief
hey those bombs that killed babies in hospitals had shareholders.
principled men
Sadly one of Biden’s principles was blindly supporting Israel no matter what they do, even through an ongoing genocide.
…maybe more like Neville Chamberlain’s legacy.
James Buchanan is the analogy I make, and we’re likely going to have a similar level of strife following his presidency and the country looking different after the resulting strife
could not find it in themselves to deal with it
… without losing their principles. If Biden chose to keep his own principles, I accept that.
If we defeat evil but become evil doing so, we haven’t won.
oh my god please stop with this loser ass philosophy. you’re fighting nazis. there’s no place in a democracy for nazis. that should be your number one principle, and if it isn’t, fuck your dumbass principles that allow nazis to come to power and wreak havoc with no consequence.
He could have put in so many safeguards on his way out the door. Instead he chose to do nothing, except pardon his own family
This kind of rhetoric makes you just as bad as the Republicans
Trump should have been in jail day one. They should have rounded up all the right wing terrorists and put them in gitmo they should have shut down Twitter, Facebook/meta, reddit and tiktok and tracked down and destroyed all the troll farms with drone strikes. They should have taken out putin. They should have done a million other things and they failed us.
