And it won’t even be over on Tuesday no matter who wins.
I just have to start distracting myself when it happens.
I honestly believed 2020 would be the end of it. I thought 4 years would be enough time to prosecute him for his crimes, and legally disqualify him from taking office again.
That we’re back here, now, and it’s still too close to call, it makes me dread the future even if we win.
If you want a distressing read:
The last time this happened, he got away with it clean, for basically the same reasons: It’s difficult, uncertain, unrewarding and dangerous to try to prosecute a popular insurrectionist, and the default choice of just leaving him alone is none of those things.
Why is it close though? Kamala was doing really well and was up in all the polls for some time. Did she make some bad decisions, like stated she’d help Israel continue with their genocide, paraded around with Liz Cheney while praising Dick Cheney, work heavily with Mark Cuban who then said Kamala will be very pro corporation and should fire Lina Khan?
it seems close due to weird polling and the fact that 40% of americans dont vote at all. i bet harris wins by 5% or more, the margins that the congressional races are exposing.
I believe this too. The polls, election betting sites, DJT stock price, etc, are all being manipulated to hell and back. None of it is based on reality at all. The massive turnout of early voting is another good sign.
But because of the electoral college basically the votes that really matter are only a few hundred thousand in like 7 states
I hope your right. Part of me also wants to believe that they aren’t releasing internal polls that paint a better picture because they want every voter to vote in a panic, like democracy depends on it.
On the other hand, Trump is still going to win at least 45% of the national vote. He can win.
Harris will win my state by a landslide. Of course I’ll vote but it won’t affect the results - all that money and effort for campaigning, and neither candidate even bothers here. Not that I really want more spam calls
Yes, since if Trump takes it I will lose access to my meds and probably die. It’s fucking scary.
Is there anywhere you can go? Any other country that would take you?
Too old, too poor, too sick. Nobody is taking US “refugees” in my position.
I mean, I understand, I’m a drag on the system, they’re not going to get a ton more economic output out of me. Still blows.
Maybe that will change after the election but I don’t expect the rest of the world to be too receptive to our refugees.
You aren’t a drag on a working system (medical, economic, whatever). Don’t blame yourself, it’s all geared for profit and not to help the most people possible.
Thank you. I don’t actually blame myself, but I understand how these systems work, and they work on expecting some economic output from immigrants. Womp womp.
I’m so sorry. I understand major medical issues. I really hope for your and a lot of other people’s sakes that this is going to go Harris’ way.
Thanks, friend. All we can do is vote, cross our fingers, and hope.
I have no clue if this could help your situation and hopefully you won’t need alternative access to you medication but just in case …
https://m.slashdot.org/story/432746
Good luck and I hope you continue to get what you need
Edit to add a better direct link: https://fourthievesvinegar.org/microlab-suite/
I mean, maybe? There’s already generic version of my meds available and they’re about $4,500 a month without insurance, as opposed to $18.5k for the name brand. I’m not sure how much I’d save having them made in a situation like that.
I’m sorry friend. Any local support organizations able to help you?
I’m in a very similar position. Major preexisting condition which requires expensive care for the rest of my life, 10 years max of productivity left in me. No country would have me, and all I want to do is flee. Unless a miracle happens next week, but I’m honestly quite pessimistic.
Sorry to hear that. I hope Kamala wins still because Trump will likely try to overturn democracy, but at least you’re alive unliked the 40k+ dead Palestinian children, women, innocent civilians that Kamala has helped kill.
Which needs to change. No one disagrees with that. Well, except a lot of Trump supporters.
I’m not sure “my candidate is bad but the other is worse” is going to work again this time. Biden was pretty proud about his support of Zionism and Kamala has said that we’ll always support Israel when asked about the war.
I’m following the most left people in the US government who are saying they disagree with the current admin stance and Harris’ campaign position, but they support getting her in office to change her mind as much as possible. I get it, US position on this has been horrible for decades, 1947 was a terrible decision on the part of the controlling countries at the time, but we have to work with what will work, and that’s only one choice. It’s not a vote or support for genocide like some want to simplify it, it’s picking the side that is open to change.
Harris has said more than just we’ll support Israel, again it’s so much more complex than memes and armchair analysts can cover. I’d challenge anyone to compare what she’s said (or Biden since Harris isn’t President yet) vs. Trump and try to make the “both sides” argument work. The details are important, but they aren’t very soundbite or meme friendly.
I get it. Trump will be worse and has said worse about Palestine. I’m not doubting that. You don’t have to convince me of that. But I’m still voting third party because I’m not playing the game each cycle as Dems move further right until they become like Trump. Demand they make the right choice now if you’re worried about fascism.
Okay, so you’re a part of the problem. Voting third party is misunderstanding the trolley problem. There’s only two options, not pulling the lever to reduce suffering is still making a choice that increases the total amount of suffering.
Get this conservative pro-trump bullshit out of here. Third party candidates are funded as spoilers and the only message voting third party sends is that it was money well spent by the conservative party and foreign nations.
How does people voting for Jill Stein hurt Kamala? It sounds like you don’t really believe in having a democracy. Also, if third party is so appealing to conservatives like you allege, wouldn’t that be helping take votes away from Trump?
And it won’t even be over on Tuesday no matter who wins.
I feel this part the most. Recent elections have obviously been chaos. But the dread of what could happen afterward has me stressed more than anything else. I’m looking forward to the political adds being over and all of the junk mail (I live in a swing state). But those are just noise compared to the potential social/economic fallout that feels like it’s looming in the distance.
And the absolute saddest part is how we’ll simply do this all over again in 4 years time, plus smaller versions before then for the Congressional midterms.
This likely will never end in our lifetimes. Like COVID it will become our new normal.
The good news there is that Trump really is something special. No really, bc like everyone on both sides hoped for Ron Desantis to replace him, but nobody can hold a candle to Trump’s outright cult appeal.
And he will end in our lifetimes:-). After that, the likes of Ivanka and Jared won’t be nearly such a force to be reckoned with. Like COVID, perhaps it will fade away into the background:-). (The caveat: we need to develop a vaccine against disinformation first, and that may prove tricky… but in any case, being forewarned is forearmed and without Trump, it may be easier to make headway.)
Completely and absolutely.
Do I need to make sure I’m near my family? What if Trump actually wins? Are things going to be okay? Do I need to apply for jobs outside the US? Should I go start hanging out with my buddy who lives way, way out in the woods, in the mountains? Is it all going to be completely fine, and just work out? Should I try to stay away from polling places? Should I get a gun?
Is this the time when it all changes?
I’m hoping for good results on election night so I can unplug for a bit. I feel like I’m going have a heart attack most days.
I’m worried that even if Harris wins, it won’t be announced on election night. Remember 2020? It took several days for them to eventually call it. And then there was the whole multiple failed lawsuits and trying to overthrow the government thing on January 6th.
My hope is that Harris wins. By a lot. A lot a lot. Like, Karl Rove demands Megan Kelly go to the election desk because he can’t believe it a lot.
I’m irritated with everyone lately and i know it’s partially due to my election anxiety. Well, that and my shitty boss.
I know what it’s like to have a shitty boss, I’ve had way too many of them. It makes even what should be a great job a thing you don’t want to face every morning. So I’m sorry you have to put up with that.
I leaned today that the worst one is retiring in 147 work days!
Awesome! At least that will make things less stressful for you.
I’ve been gnawing my nails off for a couple of months now, something I hadn’t done in almost 10 years. Politics and general world dumbfuckery are definitely high up in the list of causes.
Every fucking election is so stressful. I thought thing were awful in 2004. Rampant nationalism and war-mongering, “us vs them” Islamophobia, and still zero queer rights.
Nope. Every four years its worse… I hate it so goddamn much.
Trying to mostly put it out of my mind. Have faith in the electorate, and all that jazz.
If things go to shit, things go to shit. My panic isn’t going to change several thousand votes in a non-safe state short of self-immolation in front of the Washington Monument, and even then it’s dubious. So, just trying to survive until then, when the US electorate rewards my limited faith in them and delivers Harris a victory in the electoral college.
If not? I’ve… made my peace with my eventual fate. Maybe I’ll make something of it. Either way, not really scared of death anymore. Que sera sera, at least insofar as my own fate is concerned.
All day every day for months now… It’s only been getting worse since he kept getting better and better polling…
I’m just praying that their completely mask off racism against P.R recently actually does some good damage, but I doubt it. They have 2525282 other ways to overturn the election results now anyway… I just want to get it over with and know what we’re in for. :(
If you’re in the US, don’t just distract yourself!
- most states have early in-person voting already in progress: https://www.vote.org/early-voting-calendar/ Look up your info and do it!
- then make a list of your friends and get them to do the same
- go to the local campaign office and tell them you want to help! Most of them let you sign up online too. You don’t have to try to “sell” people, there are a lot of tasks like informing people of early voting, preparing canvassing packages, training to be a poll watcher, attending desks for outreach, etc. I’ve done several hours already and plan to do more.
- if you are in a “battleground” state YOU CAN MAKE AN OBVIOUS IMPACT. But if you’re in a “noncompetitive” state you can make things better too – imagine a world in which Ted Cruz is kicked out of office, for example.
I’m not really into partisan politics and I have a lot of personal obligations, but this time next week I want to know I did everything I could.
I definitely am. Just voted today
Well look at Mr. Perfect over here, “getting over” these major panic attacks?! :-P
On a more serious note, we’re not okay. Even those who think the most strongly that they are - including black, gay, women etc. planning on voting Republican, thinking that surely the leopards won’t eat their faces off? (and legitimately they might not… for a time)
Ironically, we all would have been better off if we had had more fear, especially back when it was possible to make more of a difference. e.g. that women’s march after Trump’s election and others like it the following year(s) was iirc the largest simultaneous collective gatherings of human beings that have ever occurred on planet earth before in the history of… literally ever - but what if it had been 5-10-50x larger than that even? Could the billionaire-bought media have so easily pushed it aside then?
Or we saw what happened when the powerful people asked Biden to step aside - he did. What if similar had happened to Hillary Clinton… or what if she had actually bothered to campaign in the midwest battleground states?
But all we can do is keep moving forwards. That’s all that is (ever) possible. Live and learn, and keep fighting the good fight.
I work for an organization likely to be directly targeted by Trump. I’m holding my breath right now for what that looks like. I’m lucky I live in a state that respects its population, so that’ll maybe blunt some impending problems.
2016 set off my ptsd something horrible. I don’t have the healthiest coping methods, but I have the tastiest.
