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    No it shouldn’t. You’re still living in the past when morals and ethics, rules and traditions held power over our twice elected rulers. We live in a new age now where everything can be used to profits the ruling class even if it leaves it destroyed.

    Americans voted for people who want to destroy the world and keep the rubble for themselves.

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      It makes me question election integrity and the whole process in general. I don’t know how it happened once, but I managed to wrap my head around it. Twice though? This man gutted the CDC and essentially singlehandedly caused the global pandemic. I am calling shenanigans.

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    The thing is, anyone already against these folks was already against them. If your hate-o-meter is maxxed out, it can’t increase.

    Anyone already supporting these folks either never heard about it through their echo chamber news source of choice or simply doesn’t care.

    That’s kinda the state of (American) politics in 2026.

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    And to think Al Franken resigned his senate seat after being photographed hovering his hands near a woman’s boobs. smh

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    Not sure how true it is but the rumor (maybe fact?) Is that Baron Trump got to be friends with them at some point over the past few years. They think they knew what they were doing keeping him close for this exact reason. Pretty sure theres other things they did together but idk enough to comment.

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      I believe he joked/actually posed for a photo groping a woman while she was asleep actually. You don’t have to lower your standards just because the other side has none.

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        He hover handed a plate carrier. He could have full on grabbed the thing and it still wouldn’t count as groping her chest.

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        No he didn’t, that photo was a joke, and he wasn’t touching her at all. It was a MAGA smear campaign because there was a lot of talk about Franken running for president, and they were afraid of him, on BOTH sides.

        So Schmuck Schumer turned on him, and joined the MAGA smear job to clear the decks for his Senate partner Kirsten Gillibrand to run. He ruined a good mans life and career for a stupid campaign that flamed out in a few weeks. Another way that Schmuck has deliberately hurt Democrats. Everything he does hurts Dems, and helps MAGA. Literally EVERYTHING. He should be investigated, he’s a secret MAGA.

        Here’s the REAL story:

        The Case of Al Franken

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          Dude… I’ve seen the photo. It wasn’t ok. The only context that could possibly help is if the woman in the photo came out and said “I was aware of the joke prior to the photo and consented to it”. Even then I would find it to be really distasteful. I’m not saying he should be in a cell, I’m saying it was a weird and gross thing to do and I’m glad he stepped down, even if he was good in other ways.

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            I’m confused. You’re getting a lot of downvotes. I can’t open the linked article, so I’m not sure if I’m missing context that you’re also missing or what…

            Your statement is exactly how I feel about the photo too.

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    13 hours ago

    IMHO… We should take out our own trash. I doubt they will see actual justice if they stay in the US…

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    The fact that an incompetent and frankly failed narcissist businessman that has no clue about politics, speaks and thinks incoherently, and has a penchant for racism and underage girls, could become POTUS, should’ve been a scandal.

    The fact that he got re-elected after he has proven for 4 years that he and his posse are exactly as incompetent as the above suggests, should’ve been a crazy, crazy scandal.

    Everything after that is just more of the same.

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    The press is unfortunately entirely too competent at manufacturing consent for capitalist crimes and atrocities.

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    I don’t really think it’s the press’s fault. I think America simply doesn’t give a shit anymore. They seem to be completely inured to the crime, corruption, fascism, blatant lies, performative cruelty, election interference, embarrassment on the global stage, etc.

    It’s very peculiar.

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      It is the presses fault. They are now owned by billionaires and they speak to whatever billionaire say to speak.

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      well, it’s not like there’s a whole lot of options. We have one party that’s openly corrupt pedophiles. We have a second party that claims to want to bring them to justice, but in practice they oppose only progressives and support only genocide.

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        So then the only way to vote against them is third party, but that requires admitting to oneself just how badly we’re really losing.

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      Its not peculiar, its by design. Flood the people with so much “News” all the time that they stop paying attention. You can only keep up with so much before you just stop trying. Even those of us still paying attention have to take breaks or go mad.

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        I can’t do it anymore because the “press” are actually just fascist influencers and they are all lying. I don’t believe a single thing any journalist had to say. I don’t believe a single thing the government has to say. I’ll never respect the rapist president. I’ll never accept the heroin addict running the health department. Countries are ideas and this one is fucking dead.

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        I think you mean buy up all the news outlets. Make them mouth pieces for the rich rather than focusing on facts. Discredit news as fake and watch people turn to their echo chambers to learn about anything and nothing at the same time. How many people including yourself do you knowtjay doesn’t trust the news. Gotta be close to batting a thousand at this point no?

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          No one made these old fucking “journalists” lie like they are now. They either always fucking lied or $omething has got them lying. Fuck them all.

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      I’m sure it seems like that from the outside. There’s so many of us inside that are fully sick of this, but we also all feel helpless for a number of reasons.

      Nobody wants to be alone in making the first move of outward revolution.

      None of us can afford to take a week off, much less the foreseeable future off to plan and execute any kind of meaningful action.

      Once we lose our job from participating in said action, we don’t have healthcare anymore.

      We’ve got to be so far past the point of no return that the status quo can’t continue before most people will be able to do anything.

      Combine that with the press hiding most of this from the people, and people still wanting to hold out hope for…something…and you’re where we are at.

      I’m crossing my fingers that the midterms (or lack thereof) will be the turning point.

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        I was reading about the French Revolution yesterday and the thing that really got things started was mass starvation. Something like 90% of French citizens were actively starving.

        There will need to be a singular suffering affecting 90+% of people before we’ll all take to the streets and put heads on pikes. I’m guessing climate change might get us there.

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          Tbh with the sheer scale of America I doubt even mass starvation will work. The government could probably just keep the states immediately around the capitol sated and leave the rest of the country to die and most people won’t be able to afford travel to the capitol to riot. I bring this up in every thread but to travel from the west coast to Maryland to start a riot is the same distance as traveling from Ireland to Moscow to riot. And we have barely functional trains.

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              I mean… it literally can. Only ~20 states have their own State Defense Force and the federal government can turn any state’s national guard on its own people. The national guard has been actively leveraged to help ICE brutalize and disappear immigrants and American citizens already.

              Also if we were to consume Gavin Newsom, for example, that does not help us get a functional federal government back.

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                so the asumption here is that the US military will just roll into fascism and against the people no questions asked?

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          That starvation thing does seem to be looming. Or easily preventable disease.

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            We don’t need his supporters on our side. It would be nice, but once the rest of us are starving too there’s more of us.

            Hopefully though, we can finally get through to them that it’s the ~2000 billionaires or so actively waking up each morning and deciding not to end world hunger that are the actual issue.

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        From the outside it looks like it’s similar to turning a big ship in a way. It’s just taking time for it to turn; meaning enough to get sick of it. It’s definitely wrong now to say nothings being done by people, you’ve only got to look at the videos people are taking of the migration police to see there’s resistance flowing through.

        This situation here is a clear abandonment of media responsibility. Journalists themselves, or their profession, will take the reputational fall for this and it won’t matter if that’s fair to them or not. The right kind of reporting on this would go a long way to driving resistance against it.

        Yeah I hope the midterms are somehow fair and held. It’s the best solution. I hope people turn out for them too if they are. The more that do, the harder it should be to rig or prevent voting at the polling booths.

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          The people don’t pay the press. The oligarchs captured the press, and now when the press reports what concerns the people, the oligarchs punish them. Part of this started cos we stopped paying the press. This is why I have a couple of newspaper subscriptions. More people should, so we can pay the press to report what concerns us.

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            Well I pay for good press, but it needs to be good for me to pay for it.

            I have a feeling that was happening with the press regardless of subscription, but you raise a point

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              “Well I pay for good press” <- does your use of the expression mean that you will only pay if you find good press, and are therefore not paying for press because you don’t find it up to your standards?

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        I totally get your point,

        I’m crossing my fingers that the midterms (or lack thereof) will be the turning point.

        but a friendly reminder to everyone in that same position: hope is not a strategy. At least try to come up with a plan for when it get worse. Do not be naive; as long as it can get worse, it likely will be.

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          No, you’re completely right. Hope is not enough. I’m also planning, but need to have hope that others outside my circle are too.

          It will get worse. In fact, it has to - or else the majority of people will just brush their hands and say “hey we fixed it, nice job” …kinda like Biden 2020.

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        We’ve had multiple people make the first move of outward revolution. They were ignored. So, you’re wrong, some people sacrifice in vain for a country that can’t even boycott a Walmart properly.

        What you really can’t fucking afford is sacrificing your children’s future with the excuse that you “can’t afford to stop fascism”. You’re WEAK. Or you just don’t care about it. The country is fat as fuck. There’s all the proof you need that we have the money for this. Eat ramen if you have to. Yes, I’m telling you to sacrifice a bit for the greater good. Yes, I’m telling you that’s the only way to fucking fix this.

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          You know what’s even more weak? Typing this garbage onto an Internet forum through your phone while sitting on the couch eating a burger and believing that you’re the one making a difference by being an asshole. I hope you’re enjoying sitting around and jacking off to porn all day because you’re sure as fuck not “sacrificing a bit for the greater good” if you have time to type the absolute drivel that I’m responding to. I’m sure you’ll respond with some excuse as to why you’re exempt but if you have the time to respond then YOU’RE weak and YOU’RE not doing enough.

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            Who sits on the couch eating a burger? What the fuck dude?

            Anger has this ability to reveal truth. In anger, veritas.

            So you sit on your couch while looking at your phone and eating a burger. This is something you do. And you are projecting this onto the other guy that is trying to get people to get off their couch. And that guy gets the downvotes.

            This is why america is where it is, folks.

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      America doesn’t care because the majority of the population doesn’t know because the press and media either under reports it, or doesn’t report it at all.

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      What the fuck is left for us to do. I’m surrounded by low iq inbred hillbillies that eat the shit they are fed right up. Vote? I did. Against this shit. Didint work. The cops will kill you. We don’t really have any options. It’s a disaster. The pedo is on control of everything. There is no checks and balances.

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        so, this might be kind of a risky comment but please bear with me

        i mean the problem starts within yourself, and i don’t mean that in an “you’re not doing enough” way. the problem starts because we can’t even define what a solution would look like. i believe that as soon as we have a better way of doing things, we will. the problem is just that in today’s america, there is no significant vision for a worthwhile tomorrow. and that’s the actual crisis. if you think that i’m wrong, please do explain how you imagine the future of the country in 40 years.

        and i don’t mean “go back to how it was in 2000” or something. that does not work. the crisis is an economic crisis, first and foremost. there’s mass automation, already since the 1970s. more and more jobs are being removed, and if new branches of economy stagnate, then we’ll eventually run out of jobs. that naturally creates a mass unemployment phenomenon. what do you do about that?

        when you’ve answered that question, we can think about all the other problems too. :-)

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          With prediction markets on the rise, I wouldn’t be surprised if “assassination politics” becomes our new economic system. For better or worse, an uncontrollable insurance market will internalize our growing and unaddressed externalities.

          What comes next isn’t necessarily what we wished for, it’s just whatever survives capitalism attacking its weak points.

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        You might be doing all you can but WE as the collective aren’t doing jack shit. I see our people going to Chick-fil-A like there’s no other food available. Buying cheap tshirts from Walmart or Amazon. Thinking walking in circles in scheduled areas is a protest.

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        Y’all masturbate to the 2A your whole life. And when you’re finally faced with fascism you turn into the cowards the world knew you were the whole time.

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        Fair question. It’s easy for me to make suggestions because I’m on the other side of the world. My day to day is tough and overlaying everything I already need to do with suggestions like “move to another country” is just insensitive to the point of being offensive. That said …

        Plan to move to another country. It’s possible or likely that you’re unable to, but would would need to happen for you to be able to move in, say, 10 years time. What’s the first step in that direction. It probably involves researching what skills you need to have to land jobs in other countries. There’s a bunch of professions for which companies will arrange visas for skilled employees.

        Connect with your community. Be part of community groups, connect with people, know peoples names and make small talk when you bump into them. Get to know people in your street, do nice things for them, take the bins in for them. Et cetera. Fascism and other far-right nuttiness is thriving in todays world of isolated, lonely people. Strong communities are the antidote to the hatred and anger that supports fascism.

        Finally, vote and help others do so. Make a plan for what you need to do on the day. Assist others with their own plans.

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          It’s not a fair question at all. What he’s really asking is “what can I do that makes me feel good about myself but also requires zero risk or sacrifice?”

          He’s not only useless, he’s part of the US’s problem

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            Well good thing we have you to point that out for us. What a great and noble sacrifice you have made 🙄

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              Very American of you. Sure- spend a couple centuries beating your chests and being shitty about how you’re EXCEPTIONALLY good at handling tyrants and then cower and ask other countries’ people to step up and take care of things for you because you’re too cowardly/lazy/comfortable… yes, pretty on-brand, and what the rest of us have suspected for some time.

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                Again. Thank you for your service. The insults will deffo get the results that you desire.

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      “Being American” is apparently a facade based off something that appeared briefly in the 1860s.

      You’d think it’d be from 1776, but they love to rip on the French who 100% carried them to independence and was still nice guy enough to gift them a statue for it too. So, first half of the 1860s; that’s the first and only time where they stood up for themselves and actually won. The only time they were being American and not just playing make-believe.